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From: John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:28:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130714142806.GA2239@serenity.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vr4f2gr4m.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> > If "--lockref" automatically implies "--allow-no-ff" (the design in
> > the reposted patch), you cannot express that combination.  But once
> > you use "--lockref" in such a situation , for the push to succeed,
> > you know that the push replaces not just _any_ ancestor of what you
> > are pushing, but replaces the exact current value.  So I do not think
> > your implicit introduction of --allow-no-ff via redefining the
> > semantics of the plus prefix is not adding much value (if any),
> > while making the common case less easy to use.
> >
> >> No; --lockref only adds the check that the destination is at the
> >> expected revision, but does *NOT* override the no-ff check.
> >
> > You _could_ do it in that way, but that is less useful.
> 
> Another issue I have with the proposal is that we close the door to
> "force only this one" convenience we have with "+ref" vs "--force
> ref".  Assuming that it is useful to require lockref while still
> making sure that the usual "must fast-forward" rule is followed (if
> that is not the case, I do not see a reason why your proposal is any
> useful---am I missing something?), I would prefer to allow users a
> way to decorate this basic syntax to say:
> 
>     git push --lockref master jch pu
> 
> things like
> 
>  (1) pu may not fast-forward and please override that "must
>      fast-forward" check from it, while still keeping the lockref
>      safety (e.g. "+pu" that does not --force, which is your
>      proposal);
> 
>  (2) any of them may not fast-forward and please override that "must
>      fast-forward" check from it, while still keeping the lockref
>      safety (without adding "--allow-no-ff", I do not see how it is
>      possible with your proposal, short of forcing user to add "+"
>      everywhere);
> 
>  (3) I know jch does not fast-forward so please override the "must
>      fast-forward", but still apply the lockref safety, pu may not
>      even satisfy lockref safety so please force it (as the "only
>      force this one" semantics is removed from "+", I do not see how
>      it is possible with your proposal).

I haven't been following this thread too closely, but I was assuming
that the interface would be something like this:

    git push origin +master
    git push --force origin master

mean the same thing and do what they do now.

    git push origin *master
    git push --lockref origin master

both mean the same thing: using the new compare-and-swap mode only
update master if the remote side corresponds to remotes/origin/master
[1].

    git push origin *master:refs/heads/master:@{1}

means to push the local ref master to the remote ref refs/heads/master
if it currently points at "@{1}".

In this scenario, giving both --lockref and --force should be an error
because the user is probably confused (the obvious interpretation is
that --force wins, but I don't think that's sensible).

I'm not sure what should happen with:

    git push --force origin *master

where it appears that the user is asking for a compare-and-swap update
of master but the --force is overriding this.  I think we have to let
--force win because when the refspec comes from remote.<name>.push we
have to let the command-line --force override the specified behaviour.

I don't particularly like the name --lockref, the original --cas feels
more descriptive to me.


[1] In fact, I suspect this would have to be "the ref that
    refs/heads/master maps to using remote.origin.fetch".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-14 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-02 20:57 [RFD] Making "git push [--force/--delete]" safer? Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 22:55 ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  6:34   ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  8:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 10:00       ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:06         ` Jonathan del Strother
2013-07-03 10:11           ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:50             ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-03 12:06               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-03 19:53                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-04  5:37                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-04  5:46                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 20:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/7] safer "push --force" with compare-and-swap Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 1/7] cache.h: move remote/connect API out of it Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 2/7] builtin/push.c: use OPT_BOOL, not OPT_BOOLEAN Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 3/7] push: beginning of compare-and-swap "force/delete safety" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 4/7] remote.c: add command line option parser for --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-16 22:13     ` John Keeping
2013-07-17 17:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-17 17:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 5/7] push --lockref: implement logic to populate old_sha1_expect[] Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 6/7] t5533: test "push --lockref" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:17     ` Aaron Schrab
2013-07-09 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:24     ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 20:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:55         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 23:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 21:10               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-11 21:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 22:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 17:21                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 17:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 20:00                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 21:19                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13  6:52                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-13 18:14                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 20:08                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 21:11                                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 14:28                                 ` John Keeping [this message]
2013-07-13 20:17                               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 19:17                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-14 20:21                                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 20:34                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:49                                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:59                                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 21:28                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15  4:10                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15  4:44                                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15 15:37                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:30                                         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-15  3:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 15:47                                       ` Default expectation of --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:27                                       ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 21:37         ` Marc Branchaud
2013-07-09 20:27     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-09 20:42       ` Junio C Hamano

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