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From: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
To: Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
Cc: Jonathan del Strother <maillist@steelskies.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] Making "git push [--force/--delete]" safer?
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:50:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D40203.1010100@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALKQrgfQhVVC1NxizjCQdDmNfihfyEgypYddWB0CMTPqW9Mxtg@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/03/2013 12:11 PM, Johan Herland wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Jonathan del Strother
> <maillist@steelskies.com> wrote:
>> I'm struggling to think of instances where I wouldn't want this
>> CAS-like behaviour.  Wouldn't it be better to make it the default when
>> pushing, and allowing the current behaviour with "git push
>> --blind-force" or something?
> 
> I believe I agree with you. I guess the reason this hasn't come up
> before is that by far most of the pushes we do are either
> fast-forwarding, or pushing into a non-shared repo (e.g. my own public
> repo),  and this safety only really applies when we're forcing a
> non-fast-forward push into a shared repo...

I didn't see Jonathan's original email but I was having exactly the same
though as him (and was even going to propose the same option name).

Non-ff pushing without knowing what you are going to overwrite is
irresponsible in most scenarios, and (if backwards-compatibility
concerns can be overcome) I think it would be quite prudent to forbid a
non-ff push if there is no local remote-tracking branch that is
up-to-date at the time of the push.  Circumventing that check should
require some extra-super-force option.

So yes, I very much like the general idea of the RFD and personally
would lean towards making it stronger and default, at the 2.0 transition
if necessary.

Michael

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-03 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-02 20:57 [RFD] Making "git push [--force/--delete]" safer? Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 22:55 ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  6:34   ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  8:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 10:00       ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:06         ` Jonathan del Strother
2013-07-03 10:11           ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:50             ` Michael Haggerty [this message]
2013-07-03 12:06               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-03 19:53                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-04  5:37                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-04  5:46                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 20:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/7] safer "push --force" with compare-and-swap Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 1/7] cache.h: move remote/connect API out of it Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 2/7] builtin/push.c: use OPT_BOOL, not OPT_BOOLEAN Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 3/7] push: beginning of compare-and-swap "force/delete safety" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 4/7] remote.c: add command line option parser for --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-16 22:13     ` John Keeping
2013-07-17 17:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-17 17:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 5/7] push --lockref: implement logic to populate old_sha1_expect[] Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 6/7] t5533: test "push --lockref" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:17     ` Aaron Schrab
2013-07-09 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:24     ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 20:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:55         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 23:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 21:10               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-11 21:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 22:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 17:21                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 17:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 20:00                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 21:19                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13  6:52                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-13 18:14                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 20:08                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 21:11                                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 14:28                                 ` John Keeping
2013-07-13 20:17                               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 19:17                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-14 20:21                                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 20:34                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:49                                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:59                                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 21:28                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15  4:10                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15  4:44                                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15 15:37                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:30                                         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-15  3:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 15:47                                       ` Default expectation of --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:27                                       ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 21:37         ` Marc Branchaud
2013-07-09 20:27     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-09 20:42       ` Junio C Hamano

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