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From: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 22:55:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DC78C0.9030202@kdbg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vhag3v59o.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

Am 09.07.2013 22:37, schrieb Junio C Hamano:
> Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org> writes:
> 
>> Am 09.07.2013 21:53, schrieb Junio C Hamano:
>>> +--lockref::
>>> +--lockref=<refname>::
>>> +--lockref=<refname>:<expect>::
>>> ...
>>> +This is meant to make `--force` safer to use.
>>
>> This is a contradiction. "--force" means "I mean it, dude", and not "I
>> mean it sometimes". It would make sense if this sentence were "This is
>> meant to make `+refspec` safer to use."
> 
> No, this *IS* making --force safer by letting you to say in addition
> to --force alone which is blind, add --lockref to defeat it.
> 
> I do not see any good reason to change the samentics of "+refspec"
> for something like this.  "+refspec" and "--force refspec" have
> meant the same thing forever.

So what? They still mean the same thing as long as --lockref is not used.

>  If --lockref adds safety to +refspec,
> the same safety should apply to "--force refspec".

No. --force means "I know what I am doing, no safety needed, thank you".

By applying the safety to --force as well, you lose it as the obvious
tool that overrides the safety.

-- Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-09 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-02 20:57 [RFD] Making "git push [--force/--delete]" safer? Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 22:55 ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  6:34   ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03  8:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 10:00       ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:06         ` Jonathan del Strother
2013-07-03 10:11           ` Johan Herland
2013-07-03 10:50             ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-03 12:06               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-03 19:53                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-04  5:37                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-04  5:46                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 20:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-03 19:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53 ` [PATCH 0/7] safer "push --force" with compare-and-swap Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 1/7] cache.h: move remote/connect API out of it Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 2/7] builtin/push.c: use OPT_BOOL, not OPT_BOOLEAN Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 3/7] push: beginning of compare-and-swap "force/delete safety" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 4/7] remote.c: add command line option parser for --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-16 22:13     ` John Keeping
2013-07-17 17:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-17 17:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 5/7] push --lockref: implement logic to populate old_sha1_expect[] Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 6/7] t5533: test "push --lockref" Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 19:53   ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:17     ` Aaron Schrab
2013-07-09 20:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:24     ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 20:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 20:55         ` Johannes Sixt [this message]
2013-07-09 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-09 23:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 21:10               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-11 21:57                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-11 22:14                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 17:21                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 17:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-12 20:00                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-12 21:19                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13  6:52                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-13 18:14                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 20:08                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-13 21:11                                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 14:28                                 ` John Keeping
2013-07-13 20:17                               ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 19:17                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-14 20:21                                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 20:34                                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:49                                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-14 20:59                                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-14 21:28                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15  4:10                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15  4:44                                             ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-07-15 15:37                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:30                                         ` Johannes Sixt
2013-07-15  3:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 15:47                                       ` Default expectation of --lockref Junio C Hamano
2013-07-15 20:27                                       ` [PATCH 7/7] push: document --lockref Johannes Sixt
2013-07-09 21:37         ` Marc Branchaud
2013-07-09 20:27     ` Michael Haggerty
2013-07-09 20:42       ` Junio C Hamano

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