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From: Andreas Herrmann <herrmann.der.user-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andreas Herrmann
	<andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Varun Sethi <Varun.Sethi-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	"iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org"
	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group notifier block
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:48:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140124094804.GG26399@alberich> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140123192429.GB26399@alberich>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 08:24:29PM +0100, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 03:33:52PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:54:11PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, so are you suggesting that we perform the isolation mapping in
> > > > > > arm_smmu_add_device and drop the notifier altogether?
> > > > > I think that should be fine, until we want to delay mapping creation
> > > > > till driver bind time.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a hard dependency on that?
> > > > 
> > > Not sure, may be Andreas can answer that.
> > 
> > Ok. Andreas? I would have thought doing this *earlier* shouldn't be a
> > problem (the DMA ops must be swizzled before the driver is probed).
> 
> Yes, I think, there is no hard dependency.
> 
> (But still have to double check whether arm_smmu_add_device can be
> used instead of the notifier. Will finally see this when doing some
> tests.)

I think we have to keep the notifier and delay mapping creation until
device is bound to a driver.

Otherwise we might create mappings for devices which might not be used
at all. Who guarantees that the running kernel will have driver
support for all devices? If there is no driver for a device why create
a mapping for it -- no DMA will happen.


Andreas

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: herrmann.der.user@googlemail.com (Andreas Herrmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group notifier block
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:48:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140124094804.GG26399@alberich> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140123192429.GB26399@alberich>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 08:24:29PM +0100, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 03:33:52PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:54:11PM +0000, Varun Sethi wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, so are you suggesting that we perform the isolation mapping in
> > > > > > arm_smmu_add_device and drop the notifier altogether?
> > > > > I think that should be fine, until we want to delay mapping creation
> > > > > till driver bind time.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a hard dependency on that?
> > > > 
> > > Not sure, may be Andreas can answer that.
> > 
> > Ok. Andreas? I would have thought doing this *earlier* shouldn't be a
> > problem (the DMA ops must be swizzled before the driver is probed).
> 
> Yes, I think, there is no hard dependency.
> 
> (But still have to double check whether arm_smmu_add_device can be
> used instead of the notifier. Will finally see this when doing some
> tests.)

I think we have to keep the notifier and delay mapping creation until
device is bound to a driver.

Otherwise we might create mappings for devices which might not be used
at all. Who guarantees that the running kernel will have driver
support for all devices? If there is no driver for a device why create
a mapping for it -- no DMA will happen.


Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-24  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-16 12:44 [PATCH v4 0/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Misc modifications to support SMMUs on Calxeda ECX-2000 Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44 ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found] ` <1389876263-25759-1-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 01/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce driver option handling Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]     ` <1389876263-25759-2-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 11:51       ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 11:51         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20140122115143.GI1621-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 20:16           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-23 20:16             ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce bus notifier block Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]     ` <1389876263-25759-3-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-18 20:59       ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-18 20:59         ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]         ` <419c2609cab14842b5258f7048ce6d43-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20 21:29           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 21:29             ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 21:53       ` [PATCH v2 02/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce iommu_group " Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 21:53         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 21:56         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 21:56           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 22:28       ` [PATCH v3 " Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-20 22:28         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-21 17:48         ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-21 17:48           ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]           ` <e92c5fd617fb4068b4ec5de696527ee3-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 12:25             ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 12:25               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20140122122550.GA14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 13:14                 ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-22 13:14                   ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-22 13:40                   ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 13:40                     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                     ` <20140122134028.GB14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 13:54                       ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-22 13:54                         ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                         ` <aeebc7cf4084486790a5166cf83cb332-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 15:33                           ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 15:33                             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20140122153352.GE14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 19:07                               ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-22 19:07                                 ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                                 ` <3d0a888e122f490ba6bbc80b1aaa977c-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 19:57                                   ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-23 19:57                                     ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-28 11:00                                     ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-28 11:00                                       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                                       ` <991cc0024ea54cdb964f31de89c0b0ea-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 14:14                                         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 14:14                                           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 19:19                                           ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-29 19:19                                             ` Varun Sethi
2014-01-23 19:24                               ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-23 19:24                                 ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-24  9:48                                 ` Andreas Herrmann [this message]
2014-01-24  9:48                                   ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 03/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Support buggy implementation where all config accesses are secure Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 04/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Introduce automatic stream-id-masking Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]     ` <1389876263-25759-5-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 15:26       ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 15:26         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20140122152622.GD14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 20:15           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-22 20:15             ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 05/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Check for duplicate stream IDs when registering master devices Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]     ` <1389876263-25759-6-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 15:53       ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 15:53         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20140122155302.GF14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 21:17           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-23 21:17             ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 06/11] documentation/iommu: Update description of ARM System MMU binding Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]     ` <1389876263-25759-7-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 14:31       ` Rob Herring
2014-01-16 14:31         ` Rob Herring
2014-01-16 12:44   ` [PATCH 07/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Set MAX_MASTER_STREAMIDS to MAX_PHANDLE_ARGS Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44     ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44 ` [PATCH 08/11] of: Increase MAX_PHANDLE_ARGS Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]   ` <1389876263-25759-9-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 14:25     ` Rob Herring
2014-01-16 14:25       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <CAL_Jsq+fDUYne1OQAd4AeQw-JAoFBf0TCv4YVpy6Vt_UmdkA8A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-17 11:00         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:00           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:08     ` [PATCH v2 " Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:08       ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 16:11       ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-01-29 16:11         ` Suravee Suthikulanit
     [not found]         ` < CAL_JsqLhzp5jUJPA91rNkQ07kCDYCDZLxw8LxxFEVP9b12e1Jw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <52E92842.3000001-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 16:57           ` Rob Herring
2014-01-29 16:57             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <CAL_JsqLhzp5jUJPA91rNkQ07kCDYCDZLxw8LxxFEVP9b12e1Jw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 16:59               ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-01-29 16:59                 ` Suravee Suthikulanit
     [not found]                 ` <52E93360.1000904-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 17:16                   ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 17:16                     ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 17:26                     ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-01-29 17:26                       ` Suravee Suthikulanit
     [not found]                       ` <52E939CB.1020705-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 17:29                         ` Will Deacon
2014-01-29 17:29                           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                           ` <20140129172932.GQ26622-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 17:57                             ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-01-29 17:57                               ` Suravee Suthikulanit
     [not found]                               ` <52E940FC.9050602-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 18:03                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-01-29 18:03                                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                   ` <20140129180350.GS26622-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 22:53                                     ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-01-30 22:53                                       ` Suravee Suthikulanit
     [not found]                                       ` <52EAD7EF.3040305-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-31  0:18                                         ` Will Deacon
2014-01-31  0:18                                           ` Will Deacon
2014-01-30 17:45                         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-30 17:45                           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-31 16:24                           ` Rob Herring
2014-01-31 16:24                             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                             ` <CAL_Jsq+=dm4kPk=e0h_up9=wvED4fd3MBtSNFxm2NEz_yag-uA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-03 16:44                               ` Will Deacon
2014-02-03 16:44                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-02-04 17:33                   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-04 17:33                     ` Grant Likely
2014-02-04 17:36       ` Grant Likely
2014-02-04 17:36         ` Grant Likely
2014-01-16 12:44 ` [PATCH 09/11] ARM: dts: Add nodes for SMMUs on Calxeda ECX-2000 Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]   ` <1389876263-25759-10-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 14:30     ` Rob Herring
2014-01-16 14:30       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <CAL_JsqK2JUBEvCb-=eHFE_T=2AD0K_+V=NAeijzK2DrCwkaCOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-17 11:01         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:01           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:16     ` [PATCH v2 " Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-17 11:16       ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44 ` [PATCH 10/11] arm: dma-mapping: Add additional parameters to arm_iommu_create_mapping Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]   ` <1389876263-25759-11-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 16:01     ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 16:01       ` Will Deacon
2014-01-16 12:44 ` [PATCH 11/11] arm: dma-mapping: Add support to extend DMA IOMMU mappings Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-16 12:44   ` Andreas Herrmann
     [not found]   ` <1389876263-25759-12-git-send-email-andreas.herrmann-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22 16:10     ` Will Deacon
2014-01-22 16:10       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]       ` <20140122161010.GH14108-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 21:50         ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-23 21:50           ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 10:57     ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-01-29 10:57       ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]       ` <52E8DE7D.5020801-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 11:05         ` Will Deacon
2014-01-29 11:05           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140129110537.GG26622-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 14:40             ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-29 14:40               ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-30  8:28               ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-01-30  8:28                 ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]                 ` <52EA0D43.1010802-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  8:44                   ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-30  8:44                     ` Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-31 17:23                     ` [PATCH] " Andreas Herrmann
2014-01-31 17:23                       ` Andreas Herrmann

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