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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	David Cohen <david.a.cohen@linux.intel.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Damien Ramonda <damien.ramonda@intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V5] mm readahead: Fix readahead fail for no local memory and limit readahead pages
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:43:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140214074305.GF5160@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwH8BqyLSqyLL7g-08nOtnOrJ9vKj4ebiSqrxc5ooEjLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 13-02-14 16:37:53, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Is this whole thread still just for the crazy and pointless
> "max_sane_readahead()"?
> 
> Or is there some *real* reason we should care?
> 
> Because if it really is just for max_sane_readahead(), then for the
> love of God, let us just do this
> 
>  unsigned long max_sane_readahead(unsigned long nr)
>  {
>         return min(nr, 128);
>  }
> 
> and bury this whole idiotic thread.
  max_sane_readahead() is also used for limiting amount of readahead for
[fm]advice(2) WILLNEED and that is used e.g. by a dynamic linker to preload
shared libraries into memory. So I'm convinced this usecase *will* notice
the change - effectively we limit preloading of shared libraries to the
first 512KB in the file but libraries get accessed in a rather random manner.

Maybe limits for WILLNEED and for standard readahead should be different.
It makes sence to me and people seem to keep forgetting that
max_sane_readahead() limits also WILLNEED preloading.

								Honza

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan
> <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm working on this latter bit now. I tried to mirror ia64, but it looks
> > like they have CONFIG_USER_PERCPU_NUMA_NODE_ID, which powerpc doesn't.
> > It seems like CONFIG_USER_PERCPU_NUMA_NODE_ID and
> > CONFIG_HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES should be tied together in Kconfig?
> >
> > I'll keep working, but would appreciate any further insight.
> >
> > -Nish
> >
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	David Cohen <david.a.cohen@linux.intel.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Damien Ramonda <damien.ramonda@intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V5] mm readahead: Fix readahead fail for no local memory and limit readahead pages
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:43:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140214074305.GF5160@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwH8BqyLSqyLL7g-08nOtnOrJ9vKj4ebiSqrxc5ooEjLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 13-02-14 16:37:53, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Is this whole thread still just for the crazy and pointless
> "max_sane_readahead()"?
> 
> Or is there some *real* reason we should care?
> 
> Because if it really is just for max_sane_readahead(), then for the
> love of God, let us just do this
> 
>  unsigned long max_sane_readahead(unsigned long nr)
>  {
>         return min(nr, 128);
>  }
> 
> and bury this whole idiotic thread.
  max_sane_readahead() is also used for limiting amount of readahead for
[fm]advice(2) WILLNEED and that is used e.g. by a dynamic linker to preload
shared libraries into memory. So I'm convinced this usecase *will* notice
the change - effectively we limit preloading of shared libraries to the
first 512KB in the file but libraries get accessed in a rather random manner.

Maybe limits for WILLNEED and for standard readahead should be different.
It makes sence to me and people seem to keep forgetting that
max_sane_readahead() limits also WILLNEED preloading.

								Honza

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nishanth Aravamudan
> <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm working on this latter bit now. I tried to mirror ia64, but it looks
> > like they have CONFIG_USER_PERCPU_NUMA_NODE_ID, which powerpc doesn't.
> > It seems like CONFIG_USER_PERCPU_NUMA_NODE_ID and
> > CONFIG_HAVE_MEMORYLESS_NODES should be tied together in Kconfig?
> >
> > I'll keep working, but would appreciate any further insight.
> >
> > -Nish
> >
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-14  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-22 10:53 [RFC PATCH V5] mm readahead: Fix readahead fail for no local memory and limit readahead pages Raghavendra K T
2014-01-22 10:53 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-03  8:30 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-03  8:30   ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-06 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-06 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-06 22:58   ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 22:58     ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 23:22     ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-06 23:22       ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-06 23:48       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 23:48         ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 23:58         ` David Rientjes
2014-02-06 23:58           ` David Rientjes
2014-02-07 10:42           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-07 10:42             ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-07 20:41             ` David Rientjes
2014-02-07 20:41               ` David Rientjes
2014-02-10  8:21               ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-10  8:21                 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-10 10:05                 ` David Rientjes
2014-02-10 10:05                   ` David Rientjes
2014-02-10 12:25                   ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-10 12:25                     ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-10 21:35                     ` David Rientjes
2014-02-10 21:35                       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-13  7:07                       ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-13  7:07                         ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-13  8:05                         ` David Rientjes
2014-02-13  8:05                           ` David Rientjes
2014-02-13 10:04                           ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-13 10:04                             ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-13 22:41                             ` David Rientjes
2014-02-13 22:41                               ` David Rientjes
2014-02-14  0:14                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-14  0:14                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-14  0:37                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-14  0:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-14  0:45                                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-14  0:45                                     ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-14  4:32                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-14  4:32                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-14 10:54                                     ` David Rientjes
2014-02-14 10:54                                       ` David Rientjes
2014-02-17 19:28                                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-17 19:28                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-17 23:14                                         ` David Rientjes
2014-02-17 23:14                                           ` David Rientjes
2014-02-18  1:31                                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-18  1:31                                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-17 22:59                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-17 22:59                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-14  7:43                                   ` Jan Kara [this message]
2014-02-14  7:43                                     ` Jan Kara
2014-02-17 22:57                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-17 22:57                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-14  5:47                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-14  5:47                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-13 21:06                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-13 21:06                             ` Andrew Morton
2014-02-13 21:42                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-13 21:42                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-02-10  8:29   ` [RFC PATCH V5 RESEND] " Raghavendra K T
2014-02-10  8:29     ` Raghavendra K T

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