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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 3/9] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 15:58:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140802225857.GC8101@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140802144719.GA18018@redhat.com>

On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 04:47:19PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/01, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 11:32:51AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 05:09:26PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > On 07/31, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +void synchronize_rcu_tasks(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	/* Complain if the scheduler has not started.  */
> > > > > +	rcu_lockdep_assert(!rcu_scheduler_active,
> > > > > +			   "synchronize_rcu_tasks called too soon");
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	/* Wait for the grace period. */
> > > > > +	wait_rcu_gp(call_rcu_tasks);
> > > > > +}
> > > >
> > > > Btw, what about CONFIG_PREEMPT=n ?
> > > >
> > > > I mean, can't synchronize_rcu_tasks() be synchronize_sched() in this
> > > > case?
> > >
> > > Excellent point, indeed it can!
> > >
> > > And if I do it right, it will make CONFIG_TASKS_RCU=y safe for kernel
> > > tinification.  ;-)
> >
> > Unless, that is, we need to wait for trampolines in the idle loop...
> >
> > Sounds like a question for Steven.  ;-)
> 
> Sure, but the full blown synchronize_rcu_tasks() can't handle the idle threads
> anyway. An idle thread can not be deactivated and for_each_process() can't see
> it anyway.

Indeed, if idle threads need to be tracked, their tracking will need to
be at least partially special-cased.

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-02 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 21:54 [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 0/9 Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 3/9] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 19:44         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:58             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-08-06  0:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-06  1:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  8:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 12:09                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 16:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-06 22:45                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07  8:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:00                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 15:26                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:27                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 18:46                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 19:49                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 19:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-07 20:08                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 21:18                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08  6:40                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:12                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 14:28                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 10:56                                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-08 14:34                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 14:58                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 15:16                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 15:39                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:01                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:10                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:17                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:40                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:52                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:27                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 16:39                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:49                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:51                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:09                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 16:43                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-08 16:50                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 17:27                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 10:36                                                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-07 20:06                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 4/9] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 5/9] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 6/9] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 7/9] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 21:55   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 9/9] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 23:57   ` [PATCH v3 tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01  2:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-08-01  1:15   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  1:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01  1:31   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  2:11     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 14:11   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:40       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 23:00         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 12:57           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-03 22:03             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:29               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:48                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-02 14:56   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-02 22:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-03 13:33       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-03 22:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04  0:37           ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04  1:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 13:51                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:52                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 13:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04 19:28             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 19:32               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-04  1:28   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04  7:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04  8:18       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-04 11:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 12:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 12:37             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-04 14:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-05  0:47               ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-05 21:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  0:27                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06  0:48                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06  0:33                   ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-06  0:51                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-06 22:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07  8:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 15:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-07 16:32                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-07 17:48                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-08 19:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-08 20:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09  6:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 12:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-09 16:05           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 16:01         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-09 18:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10  1:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  8:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11 11:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11 16:15                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  1:26             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10  8:12               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10 16:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-11  3:23                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-09 18:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-10  1:38         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-10 15:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-11  3:37             ` Paul E. McKenney

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