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From: Peter Chen <peter.chen@freescale.com>
To: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Antoine Tenart <antoine.tenart@free-electrons.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>, <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	<thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>, <zmxu@marvell.com>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>, <jszhang@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/12] usb: chipidea: add a usb2 driver for ci13xxx
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:40:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140928004049.GA3667@peterchendt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926003750.GA12770@saruman>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:37:50PM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> HI,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:39:34AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:15:53AM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 02:23:38PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 24 September 2014 19:29:05 Peter Chen wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, it is IP CORE LIB (you suggest) vs IP CORE Platform Driver
> > > > > (dwc3, musb, chipidea) you are talking about, right? Except for
> > > > > creating another platform driver as well as related DT node (optional),
> > > > > are there any advantages compared to current IP core driver structure?
> > > > 
> > > > Having a library module usually requires less code, and is more
> > > > consistent with other drivers, which helps new developers understand
> > > > what the driver is doing.
> > > 
> > > I beg to differ. You end-up having to pass function pointers through
> > > platform_data to handle differences which could be handled by the core
> > > IP.
> > > 
> > > > The most important aspect though is the DT binding: once the structure
> > > > with separate kernel drivers leaks out into the DT format, you can't
> > > > easily change the driver any more, e.g. to make a property that was
> > > > introduced for one glue driver more general so it can get handled by
> > > > the common part. Having a single node lets us convert to the library
> > > > model later, so that would be a strong reason to keep the DT binding
> > > > simple, without child nodes.
> > > > 
> > > > Following that logic, it turns into another reason for using the library
> > > > model to start with, because otherwise the child device does not have
> > > > any DT properties itself and has to rely on the parent device properties,
> > > > which somewhat complicates the driver structure.
> > > 
> > > this is bullcrap. Take a look at
> > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt:
> > > 
> > > synopsys DWC3 CORE
> > > 
> > > DWC3- USB3 CONTROLLER
> > > 
> > > Required properties:
> > >  - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
> > >  - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
> > >  - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
> > > 
> > > Optional properties:
> > >  - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device.  The first element
> > >    in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
> > >    the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
> > >  - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
> > > 
> > > This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
> > > 
> > > dwc3@4a030000 {
> > > 	compatible = "snps,dwc3";
> > > 	reg = <0x4a030000 0xcfff>;
> > > 	interrupts = <0 92 4>
> > > 	usb-phy = <&usb2_phy>, <&usb3,phy>;
> > > 	tx-fifo-resize;
> > > };
> > > 
> > > This contains all the attributes it needs to work. In fact, this could
> > > be used without any glue.
> > > 
> > 
> > If you want to add "vbus-supply" core node to support ID switch, what's
> > the plan for that?
> 
> send a patch ? Just make sure it's optional because not everybody needs
> a vbus-supply. Also, DRD will still take a few merge windows to become a
> reality. I don't want to merge something before considering it carefuly,
> otherwise we will having which is broken and doesn't work for everybody
> ;-)
> 
> > Is it possible that the glue layer needs to access core register
> > (eg, portsc.phcd during suspend)? The wrapper IP may wait some signals
> > at core IP to change.
> 
> why would a glue layer need to access registers from the core ? That
> sounds very odd. I haven't seen that and will, definitely, NACK such a
> patch :-)
> 
> can you further describe why you think a glue layer might need to access
> core IP's registers ?
> 

My mistake, we can just wait core layer for finishing before doing PHY
and wrapper operation.

-- 
Best Regards,
Peter Chen

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From: Peter Chen <peter.chen-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
To: Felipe Balbi <balbi-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Antoine Tenart
	<antoine.tenart-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org,
	thomas.petazzoni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	zmxu-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	alexandre.belloni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	jszhang-eYqpPyKDWXRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/12] usb: chipidea: add a usb2 driver for ci13xxx
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:40:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140928004049.GA3667@peterchendt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926003750.GA12770@saruman>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:37:50PM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> HI,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:39:34AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:15:53AM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 02:23:38PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 24 September 2014 19:29:05 Peter Chen wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, it is IP CORE LIB (you suggest) vs IP CORE Platform Driver
> > > > > (dwc3, musb, chipidea) you are talking about, right? Except for
> > > > > creating another platform driver as well as related DT node (optional),
> > > > > are there any advantages compared to current IP core driver structure?
> > > > 
> > > > Having a library module usually requires less code, and is more
> > > > consistent with other drivers, which helps new developers understand
> > > > what the driver is doing.
> > > 
> > > I beg to differ. You end-up having to pass function pointers through
> > > platform_data to handle differences which could be handled by the core
> > > IP.
> > > 
> > > > The most important aspect though is the DT binding: once the structure
> > > > with separate kernel drivers leaks out into the DT format, you can't
> > > > easily change the driver any more, e.g. to make a property that was
> > > > introduced for one glue driver more general so it can get handled by
> > > > the common part. Having a single node lets us convert to the library
> > > > model later, so that would be a strong reason to keep the DT binding
> > > > simple, without child nodes.
> > > > 
> > > > Following that logic, it turns into another reason for using the library
> > > > model to start with, because otherwise the child device does not have
> > > > any DT properties itself and has to rely on the parent device properties,
> > > > which somewhat complicates the driver structure.
> > > 
> > > this is bullcrap. Take a look at
> > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt:
> > > 
> > > synopsys DWC3 CORE
> > > 
> > > DWC3- USB3 CONTROLLER
> > > 
> > > Required properties:
> > >  - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
> > >  - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
> > >  - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
> > > 
> > > Optional properties:
> > >  - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device.  The first element
> > >    in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
> > >    the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
> > >  - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
> > > 
> > > This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
> > > 
> > > dwc3@4a030000 {
> > > 	compatible = "snps,dwc3";
> > > 	reg = <0x4a030000 0xcfff>;
> > > 	interrupts = <0 92 4>
> > > 	usb-phy = <&usb2_phy>, <&usb3,phy>;
> > > 	tx-fifo-resize;
> > > };
> > > 
> > > This contains all the attributes it needs to work. In fact, this could
> > > be used without any glue.
> > > 
> > 
> > If you want to add "vbus-supply" core node to support ID switch, what's
> > the plan for that?
> 
> send a patch ? Just make sure it's optional because not everybody needs
> a vbus-supply. Also, DRD will still take a few merge windows to become a
> reality. I don't want to merge something before considering it carefuly,
> otherwise we will having which is broken and doesn't work for everybody
> ;-)
> 
> > Is it possible that the glue layer needs to access core register
> > (eg, portsc.phcd during suspend)? The wrapper IP may wait some signals
> > at core IP to change.
> 
> why would a glue layer need to access registers from the core ? That
> sounds very odd. I haven't seen that and will, definitely, NACK such a
> patch :-)
> 
> can you further describe why you think a glue layer might need to access
> core IP's registers ?
> 

My mistake, we can just wait core layer for finishing before doing PHY
and wrapper operation.

-- 
Best Regards,
Peter Chen
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From: peter.chen@freescale.com (Peter Chen)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 07/12] usb: chipidea: add a usb2 driver for ci13xxx
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:40:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140928004049.GA3667@peterchendt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926003750.GA12770@saruman>

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:37:50PM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> HI,
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:39:34AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:15:53AM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 02:23:38PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 24 September 2014 19:29:05 Peter Chen wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, it is IP CORE LIB (you suggest) vs IP CORE Platform Driver
> > > > > (dwc3, musb, chipidea) you are talking about, right? Except for
> > > > > creating another platform driver as well as related DT node (optional),
> > > > > are there any advantages compared to current IP core driver structure?
> > > > 
> > > > Having a library module usually requires less code, and is more
> > > > consistent with other drivers, which helps new developers understand
> > > > what the driver is doing.
> > > 
> > > I beg to differ. You end-up having to pass function pointers through
> > > platform_data to handle differences which could be handled by the core
> > > IP.
> > > 
> > > > The most important aspect though is the DT binding: once the structure
> > > > with separate kernel drivers leaks out into the DT format, you can't
> > > > easily change the driver any more, e.g. to make a property that was
> > > > introduced for one glue driver more general so it can get handled by
> > > > the common part. Having a single node lets us convert to the library
> > > > model later, so that would be a strong reason to keep the DT binding
> > > > simple, without child nodes.
> > > > 
> > > > Following that logic, it turns into another reason for using the library
> > > > model to start with, because otherwise the child device does not have
> > > > any DT properties itself and has to rely on the parent device properties,
> > > > which somewhat complicates the driver structure.
> > > 
> > > this is bullcrap. Take a look at
> > > Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/dwc3.txt:
> > > 
> > > synopsys DWC3 CORE
> > > 
> > > DWC3- USB3 CONTROLLER
> > > 
> > > Required properties:
> > >  - compatible: must be "snps,dwc3"
> > >  - reg : Address and length of the register set for the device
> > >  - interrupts: Interrupts used by the dwc3 controller.
> > > 
> > > Optional properties:
> > >  - usb-phy : array of phandle for the PHY device.  The first element
> > >    in the array is expected to be a handle to the USB2/HS PHY and
> > >    the second element is expected to be a handle to the USB3/SS PHY
> > >  - phys: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - phy-names: from the *Generic PHY* bindings
> > >  - tx-fifo-resize: determines if the FIFO *has* to be reallocated.
> > > 
> > > This is usually a subnode to DWC3 glue to which it is connected.
> > > 
> > > dwc3 at 4a030000 {
> > > 	compatible = "snps,dwc3";
> > > 	reg = <0x4a030000 0xcfff>;
> > > 	interrupts = <0 92 4>
> > > 	usb-phy = <&usb2_phy>, <&usb3,phy>;
> > > 	tx-fifo-resize;
> > > };
> > > 
> > > This contains all the attributes it needs to work. In fact, this could
> > > be used without any glue.
> > > 
> > 
> > If you want to add "vbus-supply" core node to support ID switch, what's
> > the plan for that?
> 
> send a patch ? Just make sure it's optional because not everybody needs
> a vbus-supply. Also, DRD will still take a few merge windows to become a
> reality. I don't want to merge something before considering it carefuly,
> otherwise we will having which is broken and doesn't work for everybody
> ;-)
> 
> > Is it possible that the glue layer needs to access core register
> > (eg, portsc.phcd during suspend)? The wrapper IP may wait some signals
> > at core IP to change.
> 
> why would a glue layer need to access registers from the core ? That
> sounds very odd. I haven't seen that and will, definitely, NACK such a
> patch :-)
> 
> can you further describe why you think a glue layer might need to access
> core IP's registers ?
> 

My mistake, we can just wait core layer for finishing before doing PHY
and wrapper operation.

-- 
Best Regards,
Peter Chen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-28  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-23 10:27 [PATCH v6 00/12] ARM: berlin: USB support Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27 ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27 ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] reset: add the Berlin reset controller driver Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] Documentation: bindings: add reset bindings docs for Marvell Berlin SoCs Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] ARM: Berlin: select the reset controller Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:27   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] ARM: dts: berlin: add a required reset property in the chip controller node Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] phy: add the Berlin USB PHY driver Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] Documentation: bindings: add doc for the Berlin USB PHY Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] usb: chipidea: add a usb2 driver for ci13xxx Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 10:39     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 10:39     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 13:36     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 13:36       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 13:36       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 16:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 16:44         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 16:55         ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-23 16:55           ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-23 16:55           ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-23 17:37           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 17:37             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 17:37             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23 17:43             ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-23 17:43               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-23 17:43               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-24  2:27             ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24  2:27               ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24  2:27               ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24  7:44               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  7:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  7:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  8:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24  8:30                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24 11:29                   ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24 11:29                     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24 11:29                     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-24 12:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-24 12:23                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25  0:56                       ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25  0:56                         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25  0:56                         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25 14:15                       ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-25 14:15                         ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-25 14:15                         ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-25 23:39                         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25 23:39                           ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25 23:39                           ` Peter Chen
2014-09-26  0:37                           ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  0:37                             ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  0:37                             ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  0:39                             ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  0:39                               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  0:39                               ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26  7:20                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26  7:20                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26 15:43                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26 15:43                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-26 15:43                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-28  0:40                             ` Peter Chen [this message]
2014-09-28  0:40                               ` Peter Chen
2014-09-28  0:40                               ` Peter Chen
2014-10-13  8:47                             ` Peter Chen
2014-10-13  8:47                               ` Peter Chen
2014-10-13  8:47                               ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25 14:09                 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-25 14:09                   ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-25 14:09                   ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-24 23:58   ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-09-24 23:58     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-09-24 23:58     ` Sören Brinkmann
2014-09-29 14:57     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-29 14:57       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-29 14:57       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-25  1:16   ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25  1:16     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25  1:16     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-25  7:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25  7:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25  7:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26  0:23       ` Peter Chen
2014-09-26  0:23         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-26  0:23         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-26  7:01         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-26  7:01           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 19:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 19:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-25 19:54     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-25 19:54       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-25 19:54       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-29 15:08   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-29 15:08     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-29 15:08     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-10-01 12:39     ` Antoine Tenart
2014-10-01 12:39       ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-30  0:12   ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30  0:12     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30  0:12     ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30 10:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-30 10:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-30 10:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-30 12:39       ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30 12:39         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30 12:39         ` Peter Chen
2014-09-30 13:43         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-30 13:43           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-30 13:43           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  6:35           ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01  6:35             ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01  6:35             ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01  8:41             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  8:41               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01  8:41               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-01 12:25               ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01 12:25                 ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01 12:25                 ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01 23:40     ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01 23:40       ` Peter Chen
2014-10-01 23:40       ` Peter Chen
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] Documentation: bindings: add doc for the USB2 ChipIdea USB driver Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] ARM: dts: berlin: add BG2Q nodes for USB support Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] ARM: dts: Berlin: enable USB on the BG2Q DMP Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] ARM: dts: berlin: add BG2CD nodes for USB support Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] ARM: dts: berlin: enable USB on the Google Chromecast Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart
2014-09-23 10:28   ` Antoine Tenart

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