* New member @ 2015-01-25 18:07 Satwantjit Kaur 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Satwantjit Kaur @ 2015-01-25 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Hi, I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me further? -- Satwantjit Kaur ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 18:07 New member Satwantjit Kaur @ 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 2015-01-25 19:16 ` Surendra Patil 2015-01-25 19:48 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-26 11:53 ` Mulyadi Santosa 2015-01-27 17:32 ` Albert Coder 2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2015-01-25 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > further? I'll be blunt. Unless you *already* have an interest or desire in a particular part of the kernel (for instance, filesystems, or networking, or memory management, etc), you probably aren't a good fit for actually contributing to the Linux kernel. You might be able to hack up some code that will satisfy a professor for a project, but actual contributions are usually held to a higher standard. Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have no idea what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write fantasy, or a romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", and "I'm thinking about a story about the adventures of a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls, but need help making it historically accurate". Pretty much everybody will agree that the first book is doomed, because the author obviously isn't connected that much to their project. The second? That has a *much* higher chance of producing a good story, simply because the author has a vision for the project that they can stick to. And that affects mentoring - nobody who knows anything about writing fantasy novels will be interested in helping somebody who hasn't even decided if they want to write about fantasy or scuba diving. Somebody who knows they want to write about a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls? At that point, it's worth the 5 minutes for a Roman history expert to give suggestions and references to the way things were then.... And the Linux kernel is the same way. Now, if you have a professor that's *insisting* on a Linux kernel project, that's an entirely different problem. ;) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 848 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/4364c0fb/attachment.bin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2015-01-25 19:16 ` Surendra Patil [not found] ` <CAHzVKCBVrPfWG4oOW4M0zpc3r48SgraxgdfzNCZtZUJPeW1UZQ@mail.gmail.com> 2015-01-25 19:48 ` Robert P. J. Day 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Surendra Patil @ 2015-01-25 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Hi Kaur, I would recommend you take a look at this videos by Greg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLBrBBImJt4. He has explained how to get started to contribute Linux Kernel. Good Luck !!! On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: > > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > > further? > > I'll be blunt. Unless you *already* have an interest or desire in a > particular > part of the kernel (for instance, filesystems, or networking, or memory > management, etc), you probably aren't a good fit for actually contributing > to > the Linux kernel. You might be able to hack up some code that will > satisfy a > professor for a project, but actual contributions are usually held to a > higher > standard. > > Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have no idea > what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write fantasy, or a > romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", and "I'm thinking > about a > story about the adventures of a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls, but > need > help making it historically accurate". > > Pretty much everybody will agree that the first book is doomed, because > the author obviously isn't connected that much to their project. The > second? > That has a *much* higher chance of producing a good story, simply because > the author has a vision for the project that they can stick to. > > And that affects mentoring - nobody who knows anything about writing > fantasy > novels will be interested in helping somebody who hasn't even decided if > they want to write about fantasy or scuba diving. Somebody who knows they > want to write about a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls? At that point, > it's worth the 5 minutes for a Roman history expert to give suggestions > and references to the way things were then.... > > And the Linux kernel is the same way. > > Now, if you have a professor that's *insisting* on a Linux kernel project, > that's an entirely different problem. ;) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Kernelnewbies mailing list > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies > > -- ------------------------------ Best, Surendra Patil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/f9ff51ab/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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* Fwd: New member [not found] ` <CAHzVKCBVrPfWG4oOW4M0zpc3r48SgraxgdfzNCZtZUJPeW1UZQ@mail.gmail.com> @ 2015-01-25 19:38 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-25 20:10 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Valdis, You got to be polite with people.Not everybody is as smart as you, but they would like to contribute. Just keep in in mind that there's no future for linux without such people. You cannot keep bullying everybody like this. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Surendra Patil <surendra.tux@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kaur, > > I would recommend you take a look at this videos by Greg - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLBrBBImJt4. > He has explained how to get started to contribute Linux Kernel. > > Good Luck !!! > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: >> > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like >> > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked >> > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in >> > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me >> > further? >> >> I'll be blunt. Unless you *already* have an interest or desire in a >> particular >> part of the kernel (for instance, filesystems, or networking, or memory >> management, etc), you probably aren't a good fit for actually >> contributing to >> the Linux kernel. You might be able to hack up some code that will >> satisfy a >> professor for a project, but actual contributions are usually held to a >> higher >> standard. >> >> Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have no >> idea >> what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write fantasy, or a >> romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", and "I'm thinking >> about a >> story about the adventures of a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls, but >> need >> help making it historically accurate". >> >> Pretty much everybody will agree that the first book is doomed, because >> the author obviously isn't connected that much to their project. The >> second? >> That has a *much* higher chance of producing a good story, simply because >> the author has a vision for the project that they can stick to. >> >> And that affects mentoring - nobody who knows anything about writing >> fantasy >> novels will be interested in helping somebody who hasn't even decided if >> they want to write about fantasy or scuba diving. Somebody who knows they >> want to write about a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls? At that point, >> it's worth the 5 minutes for a Roman history expert to give suggestions >> and references to the way things were then.... >> >> And the Linux kernel is the same way. >> >> Now, if you have a professor that's *insisting* on a Linux kernel project, >> that's an entirely different problem. ;) >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kernelnewbies mailing list >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------ > Best, > Surendra Patil > > _______________________________________________ > Kernelnewbies mailing list > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/f7500a1a/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 19:38 ` Fwd: " srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:10 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-25 20:16 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-26 22:13 ` John de la Garza 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-25 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:38 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> wrote: > Valdis, > You got to be polite with people.Not everybody is as smart as > you, but they would like to contribute. Just keep in in mind that there's > no future for linux without such people. You cannot keep bullying everybody > like this. > Talking about polite, you are Top posting, how rude is that? > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Surendra Patil <surendra.tux@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Kaur, >> >> I would recommend you take a look at this videos by Greg - >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLBrBBImJt4. >> He has explained how to get started to contribute Linux Kernel. >> >> Good Luck !!! >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:31 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: >>> > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like >>> > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked >>> > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in >>> > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me >>> > further? >>> >>> I'll be blunt. Unless you *already* have an interest or desire in a >>> particular >>> part of the kernel (for instance, filesystems, or networking, or memory >>> management, etc), you probably aren't a good fit for actually >>> contributing to >>> the Linux kernel. You might be able to hack up some code that will >>> satisfy a >>> professor for a project, but actual contributions are usually held to a >>> higher >>> standard. >>> >>> Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have no >>> idea >>> what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write fantasy, or a >>> romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", and "I'm thinking >>> about a >>> story about the adventures of a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls, but >>> need >>> help making it historically accurate". >>> >>> Pretty much everybody will agree that the first book is doomed, because >>> the author obviously isn't connected that much to their project. The >>> second? >>> That has a *much* higher chance of producing a good story, simply because >>> the author has a vision for the project that they can stick to. >>> >>> And that affects mentoring - nobody who knows anything about writing >>> fantasy >>> novels will be interested in helping somebody who hasn't even decided if >>> they want to write about fantasy or scuba diving. Somebody who knows they >>> want to write about a Roman centurion fighting the Gauls? At that point, >>> it's worth the 5 minutes for a Roman history expert to give suggestions >>> and references to the way things were then.... >>> >>> And the Linux kernel is the same way. >>> >>> Now, if you have a professor that's *insisting* on a Linux kernel >>> project, >>> that's an entirely different problem. ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Kernelnewbies mailing list >>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >>> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------ >> Best, >> Surendra Patil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kernelnewbies mailing list >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Kernelnewbies mailing list > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies > > -- Thank you Warm Regards Anuz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/a7e9e196/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:10 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-25 20:16 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-25 20:31 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-26 22:20 ` John de la Garza 2015-01-26 22:13 ` John de la Garza 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Anuz, Sorry about that. But am also sorry that you could find a problem as silly as that. We have a greater problem at hand. Sorry, Srinivas Bakki -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/78ddf6ae/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:16 ` srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:31 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-25 20:38 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-25 21:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-26 22:20 ` John de la Garza 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-25 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> wrote: > Anuz, > Sorry about that. But am also sorry that you could find a problem > as silly as that. We have a greater problem at hand. > > As a kernel hacker, no problem is silly like that. All problem needs to be discussed in open. I have been on this list for about 8+ years and Robert and Vlad are the most helpful people on the list. I have not seen Mulyadi for a while but he was one of the top posters besides these two. You on the other hand have not helped one bit in this case besides just criticising them. Original poster has made no effort whatsoever to actually look into it more than knowing keywords like kernel hacking. To begin with development, one quick google search will reveal the basic books you need to read. There is shit tonne of information on kernelnewbies about kernel development, but that doesn't seem to be mentioned by OP. Now, this mentality of spoon feeding people, who want to essentially write code for CORE of an Operating system, which by very definition is one of the most complex piece of software in existence, is neither good to the poster nor to the community. To be frank, there was a lot of good advice in Vlad's mail except for the fact that it was masked in clever banter. This type of mail spring up every month without fail, where a newbie will just ask for help without a proper subject line, without a proper issue, heck sometimes there is not even a real question. Most of these newbies never turn up with a real question, let alone a problem which need to be discussed or learned. On main kernel list, this type of mails will not even be addressed. I would recommend that if you really want to help OP, then suggest them with the help and not criticise people, who are really trying to help here. -- Thank you Warm Regards Anuz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/2fd26d15/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:31 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-25 20:38 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-25 20:42 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-25 21:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies No intentions to criticize(if you think so) really. You got to mature. I respect Valdis/Robert. I know mulyadi had been the ultimate contributor. ofcourse iam nobody here but got to say that you are also nobody to preach me. We are all here to learn and let's do it the way it's supposed to be. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar < chambilkethakur@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Anuz, >> Sorry about that. But am also sorry that you could find a >> problem as silly as that. We have a greater problem at hand. >> >> As a kernel hacker, no problem is silly like that. All problem needs to > be discussed in open. > I have been on this list for about 8+ years and Robert and Vlad are the > most helpful people on the list. I have not seen Mulyadi for a while but he > was one of the top posters besides these two. > You on the other hand have not helped one bit in this case besides just > criticising them. > > Original poster has made no effort whatsoever to actually look into it > more than knowing keywords like kernel hacking. > To begin with development, one quick google search will reveal the basic > books you need to read. > There is shit tonne of information on kernelnewbies about kernel > development, but that doesn't seem to be mentioned by OP. > Now, this mentality of spoon feeding people, who want to essentially write > code for CORE of an Operating system, which by very definition is one of > the most complex piece of software in existence, is neither good to the > poster nor to the community. To be frank, there was a lot of good advice in > Vlad's mail except for the fact that it was masked in clever banter. > > This type of mail spring up every month without fail, where a newbie will > just ask for help without a proper subject line, without a proper issue, > heck sometimes there is not even a real question. Most of these newbies > never turn up with a real question, let alone a problem which need to be > discussed or learned. On main kernel list, this type of mails will not even > be addressed. > > I would recommend that if you really want to help OP, then suggest them > with the help and not criticise people, who are really trying to help here. > -- > Thank you > Warm Regards > Anuz > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/94090db9/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:38 ` srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:42 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-25 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> wrote: > No intentions to criticize(if you think so) really. You got to mature. I > respect Valdis/Robert. I know mulyadi had been the ultimate contributor. > ofcourse iam nobody here but got to say that you are also nobody to preach > me. We are all here to learn and let's do it the way it's supposed to be. > > And yet again, you are Top-posting. I am beginning to think, you are probably trolling, and I should have ignored you right from the beginning. *>>resending because not sent to all.* *Apologies for the noise. * > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar < > chambilkethakur at gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Anuz, >>> Sorry about that. But am also sorry that you could find a >>> problem as silly as that. We have a greater problem at hand. >>> >>> As a kernel hacker, no problem is silly like that. All problem needs to >> be discussed in open. >> I have been on this list for about 8+ years and Robert and Vlad are the >> most helpful people on the list. I have not seen Mulyadi for a while but he >> was one of the top posters besides these two. >> You on the other hand have not helped one bit in this case besides just >> criticising them. >> >> Original poster has made no effort whatsoever to actually look into it >> more than knowing keywords like kernel hacking. >> To begin with development, one quick google search will reveal the basic >> books you need to read. >> There is shit tonne of information on kernelnewbies about kernel >> development, but that doesn't seem to be mentioned by OP. >> Now, this mentality of spoon feeding people, who want to essentially >> write code for CORE of an Operating system, which by very definition is one >> of the most complex piece of software in existence, is neither good to the >> poster nor to the community. To be frank, there was a lot of good advice in >> Vlad's mail except for the fact that it was masked in clever banter. >> >> This type of mail spring up every month without fail, where a newbie will >> just ask for help without a proper subject line, without a proper issue, >> heck sometimes there is not even a real question. Most of these newbies >> never turn up with a real question, let alone a problem which need to be >> discussed or learned. On main kernel list, this type of mails will not even >> be addressed. >> >> I would recommend that if you really want to help OP, then suggest them >> with the help and not criticise people, who are really trying to help here. >> -- >> Thank you >> Warm Regards >> Anuz >> > > -- Thank you Warm Regards Anuz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/4013b5ed/attachment-0001.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:31 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-25 20:38 ` srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 21:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-25 21:43 ` Jonathan Jin 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-25 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar wrote: > I have been on this list for about 8+ years and Robert and Vlad are > the most helpful people on the list... while i appreciate the compliment, i have been embarrassingly absent for a couple years, working my tail off. but i plan on becoming more regular in the near future. in the meantime, in case anyone's interested, i still have a slightly outdated intro to kernel programming here: http://crashcourse.ca/introduction-linux-kernel-programming/introduction-linux-kernel-programming which i hope to update over the next several weeks. i used to charge for it, but quite some time ago, i just open-sourced it, so you can help yourself to it but ***please***, don't tell me how out-of-date it seems ... i already know that. :-) rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 21:29 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-25 21:43 ` Jonathan Jin 2015-01-25 21:47 ` Robert P. J. Day 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Jin @ 2015-01-25 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:29:10PM -0800, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > http://crashcourse.ca/introduction-linux-kernel-programming/introduction-linux-kernel-programming Additionally, here are a couple more resources that I've personally found helpful in my studies of Linux kernel development: - The Eudyptula Challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/); - Greg KH's "Linux Kernel in a Nutshell" (http://www.kroah.com/lkn/); - Robert's own "Linux Kernel Development". There's an utterly mind-boggling amount of free -- or, at the very least, affordable -- information and resources out there; it's one of the benefits of our field and, I believe, of working in open-source in general. As a fellow newbie to Linux kernel development, I definitely recommend taking full advantage of it. As Valdis, Robert, and company have said, simply showing up out of the blue and asking something along the lines of "can someone help me get started" comes off sounding dangeorously close to asking to be spoon-fed -- not a good impression to make, especially a first one. -- Jonathan Jin jjin.me ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 21:43 ` Jonathan Jin @ 2015-01-25 21:47 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-26 0:18 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-25 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Jonathan Jin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:29:10PM -0800, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > http://crashcourse.ca/introduction-linux-kernel-programming/introduction-linux-kernel-programming > > Additionally, here are a couple more resources that I've personally > found helpful in my studies of Linux kernel development: > > - The Eudyptula Challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/); > - Greg KH's "Linux Kernel in a Nutshell" (http://www.kroah.com/lkn/); > - Robert's own "Linux Kernel Development". as an editor/proofreader of the last two of those above, i can safely say that they're both starting to show their age but are still pretty darned good. i would also *massively* recommend the freely available online courseware from the free electrons folks: http://free-electrons.com/docs/ rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 21:47 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-26 0:18 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K 2015-01-26 0:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Jeshwanth Kumar N K @ 2015-01-26 0:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Jan 26, 2015 3:20 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Jonathan Jin wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 01:29:10PM -0800, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > http://crashcourse.ca/introduction-linux-kernel-programming/introduction-linux-kernel-programming > > > > Additionally, here are a couple more resources that I've personally > > found helpful in my studies of Linux kernel development: > > > > - The Eudyptula Challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/); > > - Greg KH's "Linux Kernel in a Nutshell" (http://www.kroah.com/lkn/); > > - Robert's own "Linux Kernel Development". > > as an editor/proofreader of the last two of those above, i can > safely say that they're both starting to show their age but are still > pretty darned good. i would also *massively* recommend the freely > available online courseware from the free electrons folks: > > http://free-electrons.com/docs/ > > rday > > -- > > ======================================================================== > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA > http://crashcourse.ca > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday > ======================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > Kernelnewbies mailing list > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies Hi Satwanjit, If you are doing for final year project, my suggestion is develop some userspace tools which is not available and useful one. Probably getting info from kernel and display some info etc. Right now I am not getting any idea, but developing a tool is good idea. U can identify. I am mentioning above one because by haven't mentioned any kernel topics u know. To learn Linux kernel development. Please google it u will definitely get it or search in this ML. A lot of people replied for the same question 1000 times :). Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/341a7a01/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 0:18 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K @ 2015-01-26 0:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-26 1:28 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K 2015-01-26 3:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-26 0:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, Jeshwanth Kumar N K wrote: > Hi Satwanjit, > > If you are doing for final year project, my suggestion is develop > some userspace tools which is not available and useful one. Probably > getting info from kernel and display some info etc. Right now I am > not getting any idea, but developing a tool is good idea. U can > identify. > > I am mentioning above one because by haven't mentioned any kernel > topics u know. what's wrong with ftrace? but seriously, you know what newcomers might get some value out of doing if they want to contribute? writing some really, really good documentation or tutorials. the mainline kernel developers are, unsurprisingly, tres busy doing, you know, developing, and often the code gets ahead of the docs. so if you want, pick a subsystem, read up on it and see if it needs improved documentation. then write it. there are lots of benefits to this. first, there is *always* a desperate need for better documentation, and absolutely *no* *one* will discourage you from writing docs. second, you can't really f**k things up if you stick to documentation, and because it represents non-functional changes, you're way more likely to get your patches applied than if you were trying to contribute code. and third (without naming names), if you just want to start getting your name into the kernel git log (and there's nothing wrong with having that ambition since it's something you can brag about), it doesn't get much easier than updating the in-kernel docs. if you want a specific project, here's one. start combing through the Documentation/ directory and identifying the stuff that is craptastically out of date. there's a lot of docs there, and piles of it is suffering from neglect. some of it could stand to be updated, while some of it could stand to be deleted entirely. so start reading, and comparing that documentation to the current kernel source, and start submitting changes to update it. there ... is that specific enough of a suggestion? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 0:29 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-26 1:28 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K 2015-01-26 3:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Jeshwanth Kumar N K @ 2015-01-26 1:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Monday, January 26, 2015, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, Jeshwanth Kumar N K wrote: > > > Hi Satwanjit, > > > > If you are doing for final year project, my suggestion is develop > > some userspace tools which is not available and useful one. Probably > > getting info from kernel and display some info etc. Right now I am > > not getting any idea, but developing a tool is good idea. U can > > identify. > > > > I am mentioning above one because by haven't mentioned any kernel > > topics u know. > > what's wrong with ftrace? but seriously, you know what newcomers > might get some value out of doing if they want to contribute? writing > some really, really good documentation or tutorials. > > the mainline kernel developers are, unsurprisingly, tres busy doing, > you know, developing, and often the code gets ahead of the docs. so if > you want, pick a subsystem, read up on it and see if it needs improved > documentation. then write it. there are lots of benefits to this. > > first, there is *always* a desperate need for better documentation, > and absolutely *no* *one* will discourage you from writing docs. > > second, you can't really f**k things up if you stick to > documentation, and because it represents non-functional changes, > you're way more likely to get your patches applied than if you were > trying to contribute code. > > and third (without naming names), if you just want to start getting > your name into the kernel git log (and there's nothing wrong with > having that ambition since it's something you can brag about), it > doesn't get much easier than updating the in-kernel docs. > > if you want a specific project, here's one. start combing through > the Documentation/ directory and identifying the stuff that is > craptastically out of date. there's a lot of docs there, and piles of > it is suffering from neglect. some of it could stand to be updated, > while some of it could stand to be deleted entirely. > > so start reading, and comparing that documentation to the current > kernel source, and start submitting changes to update it. there ... is > that specific enough of a suggestion? > > rday > > -- > > Robert, Documentation is really good idea :). > ======================================================================== > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA > http://crashcourse.ca > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday > ======================================================================== > > -- Regards Jeshwanth Kumar N K Bangalore, India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/3c7fee08/attachment-0001.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 0:29 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-26 1:28 ` Jeshwanth Kumar N K @ 2015-01-26 3:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 2015-01-26 6:56 ` Anand Moon 2015-01-26 10:11 ` Silvan Jegen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2015-01-26 3:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:29:00 -0800, "Robert P. J. Day" said: > what's wrong with ftrace? but seriously, you know what newcomers > might get some value out of doing if they want to contribute? writing > some really, really good documentation or tutorials. If somebody were to do a really good "Top 25 perf/ftrace tricks/recipes" for the best incantations for common use cases, they'd have a hard time buying themselves a beer at a gathering of Linux geeks. ;) For example: "I don't care the exact function, but which .o or .so is my program spending its time in?" (And yes, this *does* come up a lot -for large programs, there's usually no one single function that burns enough CPU time to dominate - but if you look at the top 5 shared libraries, you can pretty much tell "Yeah, those 5 are where I expect it to be burning a lot of time" or "Wow, why is *that* library I've never heard of at number 2 on the list?"...) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 848 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150125/5830ca0e/attachment.bin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 3:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2015-01-26 6:56 ` Anand Moon 2015-01-26 10:11 ` Silvan Jegen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Anand Moon @ 2015-01-26 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Hi All, How about working on ARM development board. We get to work much close to the latest kernel and features that are build for SOC. More over we can maintain and test out changes on development boards and submit our changes to LKM. Also it fast way to contribute to the LKM. -Anand Moon On Monday, January 26, 2015 9:17 AM, "Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:29:00 -0800, "Robert P. J. Day" said: > what's wrong with ftrace? but seriously, you know what newcomers > might get some value out of doing if they want to contribute? writing > some really, really good documentation or tutorials. If somebody were to do a really good "Top 25 perf/ftrace tricks/recipes" for the best incantations for common use cases, they'd have a hard time buying themselves a beer at a gathering of Linux geeks. ;) For example: "I don't care the exact function, but which .o or .so is my program spending its time in?" (And yes, this *does* come up a lot -for large programs, there's usually no one single function that burns enough CPU time to dominate - but if you look at the top 5 shared libraries, you can pretty much tell "Yeah, those 5 are where I expect it to be burning a lot of time" or "Wow, why is *that* library I've never heard of at number 2 on the list?"...) _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 3:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 2015-01-26 6:56 ` Anand Moon @ 2015-01-26 10:11 ` Silvan Jegen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Silvan Jegen @ 2015-01-26 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies Am 2015-01-26 04:45, schrieb Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:29:00 -0800, "Robert P. J. Day" said: > >> what's wrong with ftrace? but seriously, you know what newcomers >> might get some value out of doing if they want to contribute? writing >> some really, really good documentation or tutorials. > > If somebody were to do a really good "Top 25 perf/ftrace > tricks/recipes" > for the best incantations for common use cases, they'd have a hard time > buying themselves a beer at a gathering of Linux geeks. ;) Actually, I was interested in writing something along these lines but in practice, Brendan Gregg (who is amazing) probably has you covered. http://www.brendangregg.com/linuxperf.html Cheers, Silvan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:16 ` srinivas bakki 2015-01-25 20:31 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar @ 2015-01-26 22:20 ` John de la Garza 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John de la Garza @ 2015-01-26 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 01:46:26AM +0530, srinivas bakki wrote: > Anuz, > Sorry about that. But am also sorry that you could find a problem > as silly as that. We have a greater problem at hand. > I don't think top posting is a silly problem. I think it makes it hard to follow the thread and the archive. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 20:10 ` Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar 2015-01-25 20:16 ` srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-26 22:13 ` John de la Garza 2015-01-27 9:13 ` Bjørn Mork 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: John de la Garza @ 2015-01-26 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 08:10:15PM +0000, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:38 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Valdis, > > You got to be polite with people.Not everybody is as smart as > > you, but they would like to contribute. Just keep in in mind that there's > > no future for linux without such people. You cannot keep bullying everybody > > like this. > > > > Talking about polite, you are Top posting, how rude is that? I thought the post was very helpfull and not rude at all. I guess we all perceive things differently. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-26 22:13 ` John de la Garza @ 2015-01-27 9:13 ` Bjørn Mork 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Bjørn Mork @ 2015-01-27 9:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies John de la Garza <john@jjdev.com> writes: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 08:10:15PM +0000, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:38 PM, srinivas bakki <srinivas.bakki@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Valdis, >> > You got to be polite with people.Not everybody is as smart as >> > you, but they would like to contribute. Just keep in in mind that there's >> > no future for linux without such people. You cannot keep bullying everybody >> > like this. >> > >> >> Talking about polite, you are Top posting, how rude is that? > > I thought the post was very helpfull and not rude at all. I guess we > all perceive things differently. This document is written for the Debian project, but I believe it's a good guide to any open mailing list: https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct I am pretty sure all participants in this thread are trying to help. But I will ask you all to consider the "In case of problems" section of that document before continuing this discussion. In particular: "Assume good faith; it is more likely that participants are unaware of their bad behaviour than that they intentionally try to degrade the quality of the discussion." In my experience, you will miss a lot if you disregard articles you find "rude". Direct and concise advice might sometimes come out harsher than it was meant. It doesn't make the advice any less worth. On the contrary. Thanks, Bj?rn ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 2015-01-25 19:16 ` Surendra Patil @ 2015-01-25 19:48 ` Robert P. J. Day 2015-01-25 20:01 ` srinivas bakki 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-25 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: > > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > > further? ... snip ... > Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have > no idea what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write > fantasy, or a romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", > and "I'm thinking about a story about the adventures of a Roman > centurion fighting the Gauls, but need help making it historically > accurate". i think this is the best analogy i've seen to answer this question ... "i want to write a book, can anyone suggest what i should write about?" if you haven't taken the time to peruse the *vast* amount of kernel material out there and at least started to concentrate on a subsystem of interest, it's pointless to throw out an utterly general question like that. i agree with valdis ... if you won't even take the time to narrow down your field of interest and do a little reading on your own, it's unlikely you're going to make any major contributions. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 19:48 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2015-01-25 20:01 ` srinivas bakki 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: srinivas bakki @ 2015-01-25 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies PJ, Let me take head on .. i have been following this mailing list for quite some time now. And i know where you started from. I also realize when you started to claim youself a trainer !!! Please do not discourage people wanting to learn. Either show them the learning curve or back off. Do not show linux to be rocket science. The creators want it to be as simple. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:07:44 -0800, Satwantjit Kaur said: > > > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > > > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > > > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > > > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > > > further? > > ... snip ... > > > Consider the difference between "I'd like to write a book, but have > > no idea what to write about, can somebody suggest whether to write > > fantasy, or a romance, or non-fiction about sports, or something", > > and "I'm thinking about a story about the adventures of a Roman > > centurion fighting the Gauls, but need help making it historically > > accurate". > > i think this is the best analogy i've seen to answer this question > ... "i want to write a book, can anyone suggest what i should write > about?" > > if you haven't taken the time to peruse the *vast* amount of kernel > material out there and at least started to concentrate on a subsystem > of interest, it's pointless to throw out an utterly general question > like that. > > i agree with valdis ... if you won't even take the time to narrow > down your field of interest and do a little reading on your own, it's > unlikely you're going to make any major contributions. > > rday > > -- > > ======================================================================== > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA > http://crashcourse.ca > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday > ======================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > Kernelnewbies mailing list > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/ea5c0c9d/attachment-0001.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 18:07 New member Satwantjit Kaur 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2015-01-26 11:53 ` Mulyadi Santosa 2015-01-27 17:32 ` Albert Coder 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Mulyadi Santosa @ 2015-01-26 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Satwantjit Kaur <99satwant@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > further? > > -- > Satwantjit Kaur > Dear all This is an interesting discussion, because it always comes up frequently. Oh and btw, thank you for mentioning my name as contributor although I am rarely joining in lately. here's my view: I whole heartedly agree with Valdis, Anuz and Robert, that to get into kernel development, you need to have "vision" first. However, as someone who grew interest at kernel development while digging into clustering, I can tell you that sometimes (or most of the times) the "vision" isn't always within us from day one. So, my trick is, (hopefully it will work with you too): think about your own OS installation (at home, office, etc_ and what bugs you most and how you want it to make it better? Maybe you want it to feel snappier when you click mouse? then perhaps you need to jump into scheduler. Maybe you feel awful when you see your OS chews memory too much (although you're not sure whether to blame OS, your web browser, your office suite etc), then maybe memory management is the way to go. Or maybe you're sick your lovely ipod isn't detected properly? then go ahead into device driver, possibly into USB (cmiiw people). But above all, you need to be careful not to feed kernel something that can be done in user space e.g security policy is mostly user space domain. Evaluate your need properly PS: guys, i am always monitoring this list passively, so I am still in :) -- regards, Mulyadi Santosa Freelance Linux trainer and consultant blog: the-hydra.blogspot.com training: mulyaditraining.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/attachments/20150126/49de0925/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-25 18:07 New member Satwantjit Kaur 2015-01-25 18:31 ` Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu 2015-01-26 11:53 ` Mulyadi Santosa @ 2015-01-27 17:32 ` Albert Coder 2015-01-27 17:52 ` Satwantjit Kaur 2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Albert Coder @ 2015-01-27 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Satwantjit Kaur <99satwant@gmail.com> wrote: > I am a final year B.Tech (CSE) student from NIT Jalandhar. I like > programming and I know C and C++ programming languages. I have worked > on IPC and socket programming in C/C++. I wish to take up a project in > Linux Kernel development and contribute to it. Can somebody guide me > further? Hi Satwantjit, If I had introduced myself, I would have done it in similar fashion too (as we do similarly in other mailing lists too eg: BRL-CAD). Since we are newbies we are inexperienced and we cannot at once decide what we need to contribute in without knowing what exactly it is. But yes we need to do some homework before asking that's what I have learnt from this uber fruitful discussion. And yes it would be cool if you write a blog post for the newbies like "DOs and DONT DOs before introducing in mailing lists." ;-) P.S. Don't be disgruntled with the responses but inspired as all are willing to help but the other way. ;-) Let's contribute as we have a number of suggested resources! -- Thanks Albert www.coderalbert.wordpress.com https://github.com/albertcoder/ || Smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. || || If you are not pursuing your goal, you are literally committing spiritual SUICIDE. || ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* New member 2015-01-27 17:32 ` Albert Coder @ 2015-01-27 17:52 ` Satwantjit Kaur 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Satwantjit Kaur @ 2015-01-27 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kernelnewbies On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Albert Coder <eralbert9191@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Satwantjit, > > If I had introduced myself, I would have done it in similar fashion > too (as we do similarly in other mailing lists too eg: BRL-CAD). Since > we are newbies we are inexperienced and we cannot at once decide what > we need to contribute in without knowing what exactly it is. But yes > we need to do some homework before asking that's what I have learnt > from this uber fruitful discussion. > > And yes it would be cool if you write a blog post for the newbies like > "DOs and DONT DOs before introducing in mailing lists." ;-) > > P.S. Don't be disgruntled with the responses but inspired as all are > willing to help but the other way. ;-) Let's contribute as we have a > number of suggested resources! > Sure, I found the replies really helpful. I am referring to the tutorials and videos for learning about Linux Kernel Development. I will try to explore and find the part that interests me the most, so that I can contribute to it. -- Satwantjit Kaur ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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