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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Daniel Hansel <daniel.hansel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/15] target-s390x: New QMP command query-cpu-model
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 10:01:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401130113.GL7031@thinpad.lan.raisama.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150331220909.4410e8c0@bee>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:09:09PM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:35:26 -0300
> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 04:28:24PM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> > > This patch implements a new QMP request named 'query-cpu-model'.
> > > It returns the cpu model of cpu 0 and its backing accelerator.
> > > 
> > > request:
> > >   {"execute" : "query-cpu-model" }
> > > 
> > > answer:
> > >   {"return" : {"name": "2827-ga2", "accel": "kvm" }}
> > > 
> > > Alias names are resolved to their respective machine type and GA names
> > > already during cpu instantiation. Thus, also a cpu model like 'host'
> > > which is implemented as alias will return its normalized cpu model name.
> > > 
> > > Furthermore the patch implements the following function:
> > > 
> > > - s390_cpu_models_used(), returns true if S390 cpu models are in use
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > [...]
> > > +static inline char *strdup_s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
> > > +{
> > > +    return g_strdup_printf("%04x-ga%u", cc->proc.type, cc->mach.ga);
> > > +}
> > 
> > How exactly is this information going to be used by clients? If getting
> > the correct type and ga values is important for them, maybe you could
> > add them as integer fields, instead of requiring clients to parse the
> > CPU model name?
> 
> The consumer don't need to parse the name, it is just important for them to have
> distinctive names that correlate with the names returned by query-cpu-definitions.
> Once the name of an active guest is known, e.g. ("2827-ga2", "kvm") a potential
> migration target can be verified, i.e. its query-cpu-definitions answer for "kvm"
> has to contain "2827-ga2" with the attribute runnable set to true. With that mechanism
> also the largest common denominator can be calculated. That model will be used then.

Understood. So the point is to really have a name that can be found at
query-cpu-definitions. Makes sense.

(BTW, if you reused strdup_s390_cpu_name() inside
s390_cpu_compare_class_name() too, you would automatically ensure that
query-cpus, query-cpu-definitions and s390_cpu_class_by_name() will
always agree with each other).

> 
> I also changed the above mentioned routine to map the cpu model none case:
> 
> static inline char *strdup_s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
> {
>     if (cpuid(cc->proc)) {
>         return g_strdup_printf("%04x-ga%u", cc->proc.type, cc->mach.ga);
>     } else {
>         return g_strdup("none");
>     }
> }

What about:

  static const char *s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
  {
      return cc->model_name;
  }

And then you can just set cc->model_name=_name inside S390_PROC_DEF (and
set it to "none" inside s390_cpu_class_init()).

I wonder if this class->model_name conversion could be made generic
inside the CPU class. We already have a CPU::class_by_name() method, so
it makes sense to have the opposite function too.

(But I wouldn't mind making this s390-specific first, and converted
later to generic code if appropriate).

> 
> This implicitly will fail a comparison for cpu model ("none", "kvm") as that will
> never be part of the query-cpu-definitions answer.

I am not sure I follow. If ("none", "kvm") is never in the list, is
"-cpu none -machine accel=kvm" always an invalid use case?

(I don't understand completely the meaning of "-cpu none" yet. How does
the CPU look like for the guest in this case? Is it possible to
live-migrate when using -cpu none?)

-- 
Eduardo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Hansel <daniel.hansel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/15] target-s390x: New QMP command query-cpu-model
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 10:01:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401130113.GL7031@thinpad.lan.raisama.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150331220909.4410e8c0@bee>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:09:09PM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:35:26 -0300
> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 04:28:24PM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> > > This patch implements a new QMP request named 'query-cpu-model'.
> > > It returns the cpu model of cpu 0 and its backing accelerator.
> > > 
> > > request:
> > >   {"execute" : "query-cpu-model" }
> > > 
> > > answer:
> > >   {"return" : {"name": "2827-ga2", "accel": "kvm" }}
> > > 
> > > Alias names are resolved to their respective machine type and GA names
> > > already during cpu instantiation. Thus, also a cpu model like 'host'
> > > which is implemented as alias will return its normalized cpu model name.
> > > 
> > > Furthermore the patch implements the following function:
> > > 
> > > - s390_cpu_models_used(), returns true if S390 cpu models are in use
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > [...]
> > > +static inline char *strdup_s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
> > > +{
> > > +    return g_strdup_printf("%04x-ga%u", cc->proc.type, cc->mach.ga);
> > > +}
> > 
> > How exactly is this information going to be used by clients? If getting
> > the correct type and ga values is important for them, maybe you could
> > add them as integer fields, instead of requiring clients to parse the
> > CPU model name?
> 
> The consumer don't need to parse the name, it is just important for them to have
> distinctive names that correlate with the names returned by query-cpu-definitions.
> Once the name of an active guest is known, e.g. ("2827-ga2", "kvm") a potential
> migration target can be verified, i.e. its query-cpu-definitions answer for "kvm"
> has to contain "2827-ga2" with the attribute runnable set to true. With that mechanism
> also the largest common denominator can be calculated. That model will be used then.

Understood. So the point is to really have a name that can be found at
query-cpu-definitions. Makes sense.

(BTW, if you reused strdup_s390_cpu_name() inside
s390_cpu_compare_class_name() too, you would automatically ensure that
query-cpus, query-cpu-definitions and s390_cpu_class_by_name() will
always agree with each other).

> 
> I also changed the above mentioned routine to map the cpu model none case:
> 
> static inline char *strdup_s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
> {
>     if (cpuid(cc->proc)) {
>         return g_strdup_printf("%04x-ga%u", cc->proc.type, cc->mach.ga);
>     } else {
>         return g_strdup("none");
>     }
> }

What about:

  static const char *s390_cpu_name(S390CPUClass *cc)
  {
      return cc->model_name;
  }

And then you can just set cc->model_name=_name inside S390_PROC_DEF (and
set it to "none" inside s390_cpu_class_init()).

I wonder if this class->model_name conversion could be made generic
inside the CPU class. We already have a CPU::class_by_name() method, so
it makes sense to have the opposite function too.

(But I wouldn't mind making this s390-specific first, and converted
later to generic code if appropriate).

> 
> This implicitly will fail a comparison for cpu model ("none", "kvm") as that will
> never be part of the query-cpu-definitions answer.

I am not sure I follow. If ("none", "kvm") is never in the list, is
"-cpu none -machine accel=kvm" always an invalid use case?

(I don't understand completely the meaning of "-cpu none" yet. How does
the CPU look like for the guest in this case? Is it possible to
live-migrate when using -cpu none?)

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-01 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-30 14:28 [PATCH v4 00/15] s390x cpu model implementation Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] Introduce stub routine cpu_desc_avail Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] target-s390x: Introduce cpu facilities Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] target-s390x: Generate facility defines per cpu model Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] target-s390x: Introduce cpu models Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] target-s390x: Define cpu model specific facility lists Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] target-s390x: Add cpu model alias definition routines Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] target-s390x: Update linux-headers/asm-s390/kvm.h Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 19:36   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-03-30 19:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2015-03-30 19:36     ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-03-31  7:25     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  7:25       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] target-s390x: Add KVM VM attribute interface for cpu models Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] target-s390x: Add cpu class initialization routines Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] target-s390x: Prepare accelerator during cpu object realization Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 19:33   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 19:33     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 10:26     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 10:26       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] target-s390x: New QMP command query-cpu-model Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 19:50   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 19:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31  9:10     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  9:10       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 20:17   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 20:17     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 20:17     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 20:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2015-03-30 20:20       ` Eric Blake
2015-03-30 20:20       ` Eric Blake
2015-03-31 13:16       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 13:16         ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 11:21     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 11:21       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 18:28       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 18:28         ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 20:19   ` Eric Blake
2015-03-30 20:19     ` Eric Blake
2015-03-31  7:56     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  7:56       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  7:56       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 18:35   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 18:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 20:09     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 20:09       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 20:09       ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 13:01       ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2015-04-01 13:01         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 16:31         ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 16:31           ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 16:59           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 16:59             ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 16:59             ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 19:05             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 19:05               ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 19:05               ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 19:10               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 19:10                 ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-01 23:05               ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 23:05                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-01 23:05                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-02  7:09                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-04-02  7:09                   ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-02  7:09                   ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-02 15:15                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-02 15:15                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] Add optional parameters to QMP command query-cpu-definitions Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 20:28   ` Eric Blake
2015-03-30 20:28     ` Eric Blake
2015-03-31  7:42     ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  7:42       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31  7:42       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 19:46   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 19:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 19:46     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-31 19:50     ` Eric Blake
2015-03-31 19:50       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2015-03-31 19:50       ` Eric Blake
2015-03-31 20:22     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-31 20:22       ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] target-s390x: Extend " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 19:54   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 19:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] target-s390x: Introduce facility test routine Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] target-s390x: Enable cpu model usage Michael Mueller
2015-03-30 14:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller

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