From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Align jump targets to 1 byte boundaries
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:54:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150410175407.GB6563@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5527CD92.1080901@zytor.com>
* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 04/10/2015 05:50 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> >
> > However, I'm an -Os guy. Expect -O2 people to disagree :)
> >
>
> The problem with -Os is that the compiler will make *any* tradeoffs
> to save a byte. It is really designed to squeeze as much code into
> a fixed-size chunk, e.g. a ROM, as possible.
>
> We have asked for an -Okernel mode from the gcc folks forever. It
> basically would mean "-Os except when really dumb."
Yes, and it appears that not aligning to 16 bytes gives 5.5% size
savings already - which is a big chunk of the -Os win.
So we might be able to get a "poor man's -Okernel" by not aligning.
(I'm also looking at GCC options to make loop unrolls less aggressive
- that's another common source of bloat.)
I strongly suspect it's the silly 'use weird, wildly data-dependent
instructions just to save a single byte' games are that are killing
-Os performance in practice.
> As far as the 16-byte alignment, my understanding is not that it is
> related to the I$ but rather is the decoder datum.
Yeah, but the decoder stops if the prefetch crosses a cache line? So
it appears to be an interaction of the 16 byte prefetch window and
cache line boundaries?
Btw., given that much of a real life kernel's instructions execute
cache-cold, a 5.5% reduction in kernel size could easily speed up
cache-cold execution by a couple of percent. In the cache-cold case
the prefetch window size is probably not important at all, what
determines execution speed is cache miss latency and cache footprint.
[ At least in my simple mental picture of it, which might be wrong ;-) ]
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-08 19:39 [PATCH 0/2] locking: Simplify mutex and rwsem spinning code Jason Low
2015-04-08 19:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] locking/mutex: Further refactor mutex_spin_on_owner() Jason Low
2015-04-09 9:00 ` [tip:locking/core] locking/mutex: Further simplify mutex_spin_on_owner() tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-08 19:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] locking/rwsem: Use a return variable in rwsem_spin_on_owner() Jason Low
2015-04-09 5:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-09 6:40 ` Jason Low
2015-04-09 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-09 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-09 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-09 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-09 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-09 18:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-10 9:00 ` [PATCH] mutex: Speed up mutex_spin_on_owner() by not taking the RCU lock Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 9:21 ` [PATCH] uaccess: Add __copy_from_kernel_inatomic() primitive Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 11:14 ` [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Implement get_kernel() Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 11:27 ` [PATCH] mutex: Improve mutex_spin_on_owner() code generation Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 12:08 ` [PATCH] x86: Align jump targets to 1 byte boundaries Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 12:18 ` [PATCH] x86: Pack function addresses tightly as well Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 12:30 ` [PATCH] x86: Pack loops " Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 13:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-15 9:40 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-05-17 6:03 ` [tip:x86/apic] " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15 9:39 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86: Pack function addresses " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-15 20:52 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-17 5:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-17 7:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-17 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-18 9:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-19 21:38 ` [RFC PATCH] x86/64: Optimize the effective instruction cache footprint of kernel functions Ingo Molnar
2015-05-20 0:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-20 12:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-21 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-21 11:38 ` Denys Vlasenko
2016-04-16 21:08 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-20 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-20 11:29 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-21 13:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-21 14:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 12:50 ` [PATCH] x86: Align jump targets to 1 byte boundaries Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 13:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-10 17:54 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-04-10 18:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-04-11 14:41 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-12 10:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 16:23 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-13 17:26 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-13 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-13 19:09 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-14 5:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 8:23 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-14 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 11:17 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-14 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-12 23:44 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-04-10 19:23 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-11 13:48 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-10 13:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-10 13:54 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 14:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-10 14:53 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 15:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-10 15:48 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 15:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-10 21:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-04-10 18:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-10 14:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-11 14:28 ` Josh Triplett
2015-04-11 9:20 ` [PATCH] x86: Turn off GCC branch probability heuristics Ingo Molnar
2015-04-11 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-11 18:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-11 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-12 5:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-12 6:20 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-04-12 10:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-12 7:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-12 7:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-12 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-12 21:11 ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-14 11:59 ` [PATCH] x86: Align jump targets to 1 byte boundaries Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-14 18:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 19:04 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-14 19:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15 15:45 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-17 5:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-17 19:18 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-18 6:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15 9:39 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86: Align jump targets to 1-byte boundaries tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 11:34 ` [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Implement get_kernel() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-10 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-10 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-10 14:20 ` [PATCH] mutex: Speed up mutex_spin_on_owner() by not taking the RCU lock Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-10 17:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-10 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-09 19:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] locking/rwsem: Use a return variable in rwsem_spin_on_owner() Jason Low
2015-04-09 19:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-09 20:58 ` Jason Low
2015-04-09 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-09 19:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-04-09 20:36 ` Jason Low
2015-04-10 2:43 ` Andev
2015-04-10 9:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-08 19:49 ` [PATCH 0/2] locking: Simplify mutex and rwsem spinning code Davidlohr Bueso
2015-04-08 20:10 ` Jason Low
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