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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	mingo@redhat.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: 'perf upgrade' (was: Re: [PATCH v9 00/11] Add support for JSON event files.)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:12:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150418131220.GB1514@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150415205042.GA11620@us.ibm.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:50:42PM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:

SNIP

> 
> | 
> |  - to add an ABI to support those vendor files
> | 
> | And those are IMHO five good technical reasons to disagree with your 
> | approach.
> | 
> | My suggestion to resolve the technical objections and lift the NAK 
> | would be:
> | 
> |  - to add the tables to the source code, in a more human readable 
> |    format and (optionally) structure the event names better into a 
> |    higher level hierarchy, than the humungous linear dumps with no 
> |    explanations that you propose - while still supporting the 'raw' 
> |    vendor event names you want to use, for those people who are used 
> |    to them.
> | 
> 
> A bit confused.
> 
> Have the JSON files in the tree and generate the C structure during
> build?
> 
> Or, ditch the JSON files and add something like this in say,
> tools/perf/arch/powerpc/util/power8-events.h?
> 
> static const  struct events power8_events[] = {
>     [ 0 ] = {
>         .name = "PM_1LPAR_CYC",
>         .code = 0x1f05e,
>         .brief_desc = " "Number of cycles in single lpar mode. All threads in the core are assigned to the same lpar,",
>         .public_desc = "Number of cycles in single lpar mode.,",
>       },
> 
> If we have the JSON files, would the 'make install' put the JSON files
> in ~/.cache/pmu-events or in a standard location?

IIUC the intention is not to have external event data files
but have them compiled into perf binary.. like we could have
JSON with events description under perf source and build it
into 'struct perf_pmu_alias' data duting the build..

the pmu.c alias logic would need a little adjustments,
but it seems doable to me

jirka

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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	mingo@redhat.com, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	namhyung@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 'perf upgrade' (was: Re: [PATCH v9 00/11] Add support for JSON event files.)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:12:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150418131220.GB1514@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150415205042.GA11620@us.ibm.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 01:50:42PM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:

SNIP

> 
> | 
> |  - to add an ABI to support those vendor files
> | 
> | And those are IMHO five good technical reasons to disagree with your 
> | approach.
> | 
> | My suggestion to resolve the technical objections and lift the NAK 
> | would be:
> | 
> |  - to add the tables to the source code, in a more human readable 
> |    format and (optionally) structure the event names better into a 
> |    higher level hierarchy, than the humungous linear dumps with no 
> |    explanations that you propose - while still supporting the 'raw' 
> |    vendor event names you want to use, for those people who are used 
> |    to them.
> | 
> 
> A bit confused.
> 
> Have the JSON files in the tree and generate the C structure during
> build?
> 
> Or, ditch the JSON files and add something like this in say,
> tools/perf/arch/powerpc/util/power8-events.h?
> 
> static const  struct events power8_events[] = {
>     [ 0 ] = {
>         .name = "PM_1LPAR_CYC",
>         .code = 0x1f05e,
>         .brief_desc = " "Number of cycles in single lpar mode. All threads in the core are assigned to the same lpar,",
>         .public_desc = "Number of cycles in single lpar mode.,",
>       },
> 
> If we have the JSON files, would the 'make install' put the JSON files
> in ~/.cache/pmu-events or in a standard location?

IIUC the intention is not to have external event data files
but have them compiled into perf binary.. like we could have
JSON with events description under perf source and build it
into 'struct perf_pmu_alias' data duting the build..

the pmu.c alias logic would need a little adjustments,
but it seems doable to me

jirka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-18 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-14  6:40 [PATCH v9 00/11] Add support for JSON event files Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 01/11] perf, tools: Add jsmn `jasmine' JSON parser Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 02/11] perf, tools: Add support for text descriptions of events and alias add Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 03/11] perf, tools, list: Update perf list to output descriptions Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 04/11] perf, tools: Add support for reading JSON event files Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 05/11] perf, tools: Automatically look for event file name for cpu Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40 ` [PATCH v9 06/11] powerpc/perf: Implement get_cpu_str() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:40   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41 ` [PATCH v9 07/11] perf, tools: Query terminal width and use in perf list Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41 ` [PATCH v9 08/11] perf, tools: Add a new pmu interface to iterate over all events Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41 ` [PATCH v9 09/11] perf, tools, test: Add test case for alias and JSON parsing Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41 ` [PATCH v9 10/11] perf, tools: Add a --no-desc flag to perf list Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41 ` [PATCH v9 11/11] perf-download: Download the events json file Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  6:41   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14  8:55 ` 'perf upgrade' (was: Re: [PATCH v9 00/11] Add support for JSON event files.) Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14  8:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 11:21   ` Michael Ellerman
2015-04-14 11:21     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-04-14 12:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 12:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 18:03       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14 18:03         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-14 22:53       ` Michael Ellerman
2015-04-14 22:53         ` Michael Ellerman
2015-04-15  9:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-15  9:25           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-15 19:17           ` Andi Kleen
2015-04-15 19:17             ` Andi Kleen
2015-04-15 20:50           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-15 20:50             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2015-04-17 15:31             ` Jiri Olsa
2015-04-17 15:31               ` Jiri Olsa
2015-04-17 20:09               ` Andi Kleen
2015-04-17 20:09                 ` Andi Kleen
2015-04-18 13:05                 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-04-18 13:05                   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-04-18 13:12             ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2015-04-18 13:12               ` Jiri Olsa
2015-04-14 20:16   ` Andi Kleen
2015-04-14 20:16     ` Andi Kleen

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