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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org>,
	axboe@fb.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
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	Oleg Drokin <oleg.drokin@intel.com>,
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	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Dongsu Park <dpark@posteo.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:47:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150811174717.GA30439@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq17fp1hgm0.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>

On Tue, Aug 11 2015 at  1:36pm -0400,
Martin K. Petersen <martin.petersen@oracle.com> wrote:

> >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> Mike> DM-thinp processes discards internally before it passes them down
> Mike> (if configured to do so).  If a discard is smaller than the
> Mike> granularity of a thinp block (whose size is configurable) or if
> Mike> the start and end of the discard's extent is misaligned (relative
> Mike> to the thinp blocks mapped to the logical extent) then the discard
> Mike> won't actually discard partial thinp blocks.
> 
> That's fine. You can throw away anything you don't like as long as
> discard_zeroes_data=0.

Correct, dm-thinp sets discard_zeroes_data=0

> But I don't understand why having an artificial cap at 2GB fixes
> things. Other than making it less likely for you to receive a runt by
> virtue of being aligned to a power of two.

That is the benefit.  And when coupled with the new default max_discard
of 64K (pending change from Jens for 4.3) this 2GB upper limit really
isn't such a big deal.  Unless I'm missing something...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Martin K. Petersen"
	<martin.petersen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ming Lei <ming.lei-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
	device-mapper development
	<dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Lars Ellenberg <drbd-dev-cunTk1MwBs8qoQakbn7OcQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Philip Kelleher
	<pjk1939-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Kent Overstreet
	<kent.overstreet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta-KNmc09w0p+Ednm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Ming Lin <ming.l-Vzezgt5dB6uUEJcrhfAQsw@public.gmane.org>,
	Oleg Drokin <oleg.drokin-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Al Viro <viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Ming Lin <mlin-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
	axboe-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	Andreas Dilger
	<andreas.dilger-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jim Paris <jim-XrPbb/hENzg@public.gmane.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Joe Thornber <ejt-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Dongsu Park <dpark-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>,
	drbd-user-cunTk1MwBs8qoQakbn7OcQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:47:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150811174717.GA30439@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq17fp1hgm0.fsf-+q57XtR/GgMb6DWv4sQWN6xOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Aug 11 2015 at  1:36pm -0400,
Martin K. Petersen <martin.petersen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> Mike> DM-thinp processes discards internally before it passes them down
> Mike> (if configured to do so).  If a discard is smaller than the
> Mike> granularity of a thinp block (whose size is configurable) or if
> Mike> the start and end of the discard's extent is misaligned (relative
> Mike> to the thinp blocks mapped to the logical extent) then the discard
> Mike> won't actually discard partial thinp blocks.
> 
> That's fine. You can throw away anything you don't like as long as
> discard_zeroes_data=0.

Correct, dm-thinp sets discard_zeroes_data=0

> But I don't understand why having an artificial cap at 2GB fixes
> things. Other than making it less likely for you to receive a runt by
> virtue of being aligned to a power of two.

That is the benefit.  And when coupled with the new default max_discard
of 64K (pending change from Jens for 4.3) this 2GB upper limit really
isn't such a big deal.  Unless I'm missing something...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-11 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-06  7:44 [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] block: simplify bio_add_page() Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] bcache: remove driver private bio splitting code Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] btrfs: remove bio splitting and merge_bvec_fn() calls Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] block: remove split code in blkdev_issue_discard Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] md/raid5: split bio for chunk_aligned_read Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] md/raid5: get rid of bio_fits_rdev() Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] block: kill merge_bvec_fn() completely Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] fs: use helper bio_add_page() instead of open coding on bi_io_vec Ming Lin
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] block: remove bio_get_nr_vecs() Ming Lin
2015-07-06 10:58   ` Steven Whitehouse
2015-07-06 17:21     ` Ming Lin
2015-07-07  9:04       ` Steven Whitehouse
2015-07-06  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] Documentation: update notes in biovecs about arbitrarily sized bios Ming Lin
2015-07-31 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle " Mike Snitzer
2015-07-31 21:19   ` Ming Lin
2015-07-31 21:19     ` Ming Lin
2015-07-31 21:38     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-31 21:38       ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-31 22:02       ` Ming Lin
2015-07-31 22:18         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-01  6:58       ` Ming Lin
2015-08-01  6:58         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-01 16:33         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-03  5:58           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-03  5:58             ` Ming Lin
2015-08-04 11:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-05  6:03               ` Ming Lin
2015-08-05  6:03                 ` Ming Lin
2015-08-07  7:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-07  7:30                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-07 23:40                   ` Ming Lin
2015-08-07 23:40                     ` Ming Lin
2015-08-08  0:30                     ` Kent Overstreet
2015-08-08  5:17                       ` Ming Lin
2015-08-08  5:17                         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-08  5:22                         ` Kent Overstreet
2015-08-08 12:35                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-08 12:35                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-08  8:52                     ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2015-08-08  9:02                       ` Kent Overstreet
2015-08-13  6:04                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-08-07  0:00               ` Kent Overstreet
2015-08-07  7:30                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-07  7:30                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-08 16:19           ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-08 16:19             ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-09  5:59             ` Ming Lin
2015-08-09  5:59               ` Ming Lin
2015-08-09  6:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-09  6:41                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-09  6:55                 ` Ming Lin
2015-08-09  6:55                   ` Ming Lin
2015-08-09  7:01                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-09  7:01                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-09  7:18                     ` Ming Lin
2015-08-09  7:18                       ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 15:02                       ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-10 15:02                         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-10 16:14                         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 16:14                           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 16:18                           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 16:18                             ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 16:40                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-10 16:40                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-10 18:13                           ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-10 22:30                             ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 22:30                               ` Ming Lin
2015-08-10 16:22                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-10 16:22                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-10 18:18                           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-11  2:00                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11  2:00                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11  2:41                               ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-11  2:41                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-11  3:38                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2015-08-11 14:08                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-11 14:08                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-11 17:49                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 17:49                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 18:05                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 18:05                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 20:56                                       ` Ming Lin
2015-08-11 20:56                                         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-12  0:24                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-12  0:24                                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-12  4:41                                           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-12  4:41                                             ` Ming Lin
2015-08-11 17:36                                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 17:36                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 17:47                                   ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2015-08-11 17:47                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-11 18:01                                     ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-11 18:01                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-08-18  5:09                         ` Ming Lin
2015-08-18  7:04                           ` Ming Lin
2015-08-18 14:45                             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-18 17:32                               ` Ming Lin
2015-08-18 19:59                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-18 21:16                                   ` Ming Lin
2015-08-18 21:22                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-08-18 22:17                                       ` Ming Lin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-06  7:11 [PATCH v5 00/11] simplify block layer based on immutable biovecs mlin
2015-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] block: make generic_make_request handle arbitrarily sized bios mlin

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