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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, x86@kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:41:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116144130.GD3443@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1447459610-14259-1-git-send-email-ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>

On Fri 13-11-15 17:06:39, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> This patch series adds support for fsync/msync to DAX.
> 
> Patches 1 through 7 add various utilities that the DAX code will eventually
> need, and the DAX code itself is added by patch 8.  Patches 9-11 update the
> three filesystems that currently support DAX, ext2, ext4 and XFS, to use
> the new DAX fsync/msync code.
> 
> These patches build on the recent DAX locking changes from Dave Chinner,
> Jan Kara and myself.  Dave's changes for XFS and my changes for ext2 have
> been merged in the v4.4 window, but Jan's are still unmerged.  You can grab
> them here:
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg49951.html

I had a quick look and the patches look sane to me. I'll try to give them
more detailed look later this week. When thinking about the general design
I was wondering: When we have this infrastructure to track data potentially
lingering in CPU caches, would not it be a performance win to use standard
cached stores in dax_io() and mark corresponding pages as dirty in page
cache the same way as this patch set does it for mmaped writes? I have no
idea how costly are non-temporal stores compared to cached ones and how
would this compare to the cost of dirty tracking so this may be just
completely bogus...

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org, x86@kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:41:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116144130.GD3443@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1447459610-14259-1-git-send-email-ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>

On Fri 13-11-15 17:06:39, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> This patch series adds support for fsync/msync to DAX.
> 
> Patches 1 through 7 add various utilities that the DAX code will eventually
> need, and the DAX code itself is added by patch 8.  Patches 9-11 update the
> three filesystems that currently support DAX, ext2, ext4 and XFS, to use
> the new DAX fsync/msync code.
> 
> These patches build on the recent DAX locking changes from Dave Chinner,
> Jan Kara and myself.  Dave's changes for XFS and my changes for ext2 have
> been merged in the v4.4 window, but Jan's are still unmerged.  You can grab
> them here:
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg49951.html

I had a quick look and the patches look sane to me. I'll try to give them
more detailed look later this week. When thinking about the general design
I was wondering: When we have this infrastructure to track data potentially
lingering in CPU caches, would not it be a performance win to use standard
cached stores in dax_io() and mark corresponding pages as dirty in page
cache the same way as this patch set does it for mmaped writes? I have no
idea how costly are non-temporal stores compared to cached ones and how
would this compare to the cost of dirty tracking so this may be just
completely bogus...

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:41:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116144130.GD3443@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1447459610-14259-1-git-send-email-ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>

On Fri 13-11-15 17:06:39, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> This patch series adds support for fsync/msync to DAX.
> 
> Patches 1 through 7 add various utilities that the DAX code will eventually
> need, and the DAX code itself is added by patch 8.  Patches 9-11 update the
> three filesystems that currently support DAX, ext2, ext4 and XFS, to use
> the new DAX fsync/msync code.
> 
> These patches build on the recent DAX locking changes from Dave Chinner,
> Jan Kara and myself.  Dave's changes for XFS and my changes for ext2 have
> been merged in the v4.4 window, but Jan's are still unmerged.  You can grab
> them here:
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg49951.html

I had a quick look and the patches look sane to me. I'll try to give them
more detailed look later this week. When thinking about the general design
I was wondering: When we have this infrastructure to track data potentially
lingering in CPU caches, would not it be a performance win to use standard
cached stores in dax_io() and mark corresponding pages as dirty in page
cache the same way as this patch set does it for mmaped writes? I have no
idea how costly are non-temporal stores compared to cached ones and how
would this compare to the cost of dirty tracking so this may be just
completely bogus...

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-14  0:06 [PATCH v2 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] pmem: add wb_cache_pmem() to the PMEM API Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] mm: add pmd_mkclean() Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  1:02   ` Dave Hansen
2015-11-14  1:02     ` Dave Hansen
2015-11-14  1:02     ` Dave Hansen
2015-11-17 17:52     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 17:52       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 17:52       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] pmem: enable REQ_FUA/REQ_FLUSH handling Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:20   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-14  0:20     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-14  0:20     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-14  0:43     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-11-14  0:43       ` Andreas Dilger
2015-11-14  0:43       ` Andreas Dilger
2015-11-14  2:32       ` Dan Williams
2015-11-14  2:32         ` Dan Williams
2015-11-14  2:32         ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 13:37         ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 13:37           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 13:37           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 13:37           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 14:05           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 14:05             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 14:05             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 17:28             ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 17:28               ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 17:28               ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 19:48               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 19:48                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 19:48                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 19:48                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:34                 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 20:34                   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 20:34                   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 20:34                   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 23:57                   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:57                     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:57                     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:57                     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 22:14             ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:14               ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:14               ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:29               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:29                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:29                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:29                 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:42                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 20:09         ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:09           ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:09           ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-18 10:40           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-18 10:40             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-18 10:40             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-18 10:40             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-18 16:16             ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-18 16:16               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-18 16:16               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-18 16:16               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-18 16:16               ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] dax: support dirty DAX entries in radix tree Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm: add follow_pte_pmd() Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm: add pgoff_mkclean() Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: add find_get_entries_tag() Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 22:42   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:42     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:42     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-17 18:08     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 18:08       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 18:08       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] dax: add support for fsync/sync Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 22:58   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:58     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 22:58     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-17 18:30     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 18:30       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 18:30       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] ext2: add support for DAX fsync/msync Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] ext4: " Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] xfs: " Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-14  0:06   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 23:12   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 23:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-17 19:03     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 19:03       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 19:03       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-17 19:03       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-20  0:37       ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-20  0:37         ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-20  0:37         ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-16 14:41 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2015-11-16 14:41   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] DAX fsynx/msync support Jan Kara
2015-11-16 14:41   ` Jan Kara
2015-11-16 16:58   ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 16:58     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 16:58     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 16:58     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-16 20:01     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:01       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:01       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-16 20:01       ` Ross Zwisler

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