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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/22] kthread: Detect when a kthread work is used by more workers
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:28:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151124162822.GJ10750@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151124144942.GC17033@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Tue 2015-11-24 09:49:42, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Petr.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:06:50AM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > > @@ -610,6 +625,12 @@ repeat:
> > > >  	if (work) {
> > > >  		__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> > > >  		work->func(work);
> > > > +
> > > > +		spin_lock_irq(&worker->lock);
> > > > +		/* Allow to queue the work into another worker */
> > > > +		if (!kthread_work_pending(work))
> > > > +			work->worker = NULL;
> > > > +		spin_unlock_irq(&worker->lock);
> > > 
> > > Doesn't this mean that the work item can't be freed from its callback?
> > > That pattern tends to happen regularly.
> > 
> > I am not sure if I understand your question. Do you mean switching
> > work->func during the life time of the struct kthread_work? This
> > should not be affected by the above code.
> 
>IOW, you can't expect the work
> item to remain accessible once the work function starts executing.

I see, I was not aware of this pattern.


> > The above code allows to queue an _unused_ kthread_work into any
> > kthread_worker. For example, it is needed for khugepaged,
> > see http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=144785344924871&w=2
> > The work is static but the worker can be started/stopped
> > (allocated/freed) repeatedly. It means that the work need
> > to be usable with many workers. But it is associated only
> > with one worker when being used.
>
> It can just re-init work items when it restarts workers, right?

Yes, this would work. It might be slightly inconvenient but
it looks like a good compromise. It helps to keep the API
implementation rather simple and rather secure.

Alternatively, we could allow to queue the work on another worker
if it is not pending. But then we would need to check the pending
status without the worker->lock because work->worker might point
to an already freed worker. We need to check the pending
status in many situations. It might open a can of worms that
I probably do not want to catch.

Thank you and PeterZ for explanation,
Petr

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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/22] kthread: Detect when a kthread work is used by more workers
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:28:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151124162822.GJ10750@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151124144942.GC17033@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Tue 2015-11-24 09:49:42, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Petr.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:06:50AM +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > > @@ -610,6 +625,12 @@ repeat:
> > > >  	if (work) {
> > > >  		__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> > > >  		work->func(work);
> > > > +
> > > > +		spin_lock_irq(&worker->lock);
> > > > +		/* Allow to queue the work into another worker */
> > > > +		if (!kthread_work_pending(work))
> > > > +			work->worker = NULL;
> > > > +		spin_unlock_irq(&worker->lock);
> > > 
> > > Doesn't this mean that the work item can't be freed from its callback?
> > > That pattern tends to happen regularly.
> > 
> > I am not sure if I understand your question. Do you mean switching
> > work->func during the life time of the struct kthread_work? This
> > should not be affected by the above code.
> 
>IOW, you can't expect the work
> item to remain accessible once the work function starts executing.

I see, I was not aware of this pattern.


> > The above code allows to queue an _unused_ kthread_work into any
> > kthread_worker. For example, it is needed for khugepaged,
> > see http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=144785344924871&w=2
> > The work is static but the worker can be started/stopped
> > (allocated/freed) repeatedly. It means that the work need
> > to be usable with many workers. But it is associated only
> > with one worker when being used.
>
> It can just re-init work items when it restarts workers, right?

Yes, this would work. It might be slightly inconvenient but
it looks like a good compromise. It helps to keep the API
implementation rather simple and rather secure.

Alternatively, we could allow to queue the work on another worker
if it is not pending. But then we would need to check the pending
status without the worker->lock because work->worker might point
to an already freed worker. We need to check the pending
status in many situations. It might open a can of worms that
I probably do not want to catch.

Thank you and PeterZ for explanation,
Petr

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-24 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-18 13:25 [PATCH v3 00/22] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/22] timer: Allow to check when the timer callback has not finished yet Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 22:32   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-18 22:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-19 12:43     ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-19 12:43       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-19 12:43       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/22] kthread/smpboot: Do not park in kthread_create_on_cpu() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-25 21:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-25 21:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-25 21:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/22] kthread: Allow to call __kthread_create_on_node() with va_list args Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/22] kthread: Add create_kthread_worker*() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/22] kthread: Add drain_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/22] kthread: Add destroy_kthread_worker() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/22] kthread: Detect when a kthread work is used by more workers Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-23 22:27   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:27     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 10:06     ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:06       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:06       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 14:49       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 14:49         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:28         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2015-11-24 16:28           ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 14:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 14:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-24 14:56         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/22] kthread: Initial support for delayed kthread work Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/22] kthread: Allow to cancel " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-23 22:58   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:58     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-23 22:58     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 10:21     ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 10:21       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 20:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:28       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:28         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:28         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 20:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-24 20:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/22] kthread: Allow to modify delayed " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/22] kthread: Better support freezable kthread workers Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/22] kthread: Use try_lock_kthread_work() in flush_kthread_work() Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/22] mm/huge_page: Convert khugepaged() into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/22] ring_buffer: Convert benchmark kthreads " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/22] hung_task: Convert hungtaskd " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/22] kmemleak: Convert kmemleak kthread " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/22] ipmi: Convert kipmi " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-23 19:36   ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-23 19:36     ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-24 12:12     ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 12:12       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 12:12       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-24 13:30       ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-24 13:30         ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-24 13:30         ` Corey Minyard
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/22] IB/fmr_pool: Convert the cleanup thread " Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-19 12:46   ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-19 12:46     ` Yuval Shaia
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/22] memstick/r592: Better synchronize debug messages in r592_io kthread Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/22] memstick/r592: convert r592_io kthread into kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/22] thermal/intel_powerclamp: Remove duplicated code that starts the kthread Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/22] thermal/intel_powerclamp: Convert the kthread to kthread worker API Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 13:25   ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-07 19:55   ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-07 19:55     ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-08 16:49     ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-08 16:49       ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12  2:17       ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12  2:17         ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12 10:11         ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 10:11           ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-12 16:20           ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-12 16:20             ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-13 10:18             ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 10:18               ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 10:18               ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-13 17:53               ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-13 17:53                 ` Jacob Pan
2016-01-14 15:37                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-01-14 15:37                   ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/22] kthread: Use kthread worker API more widely Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 14:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-18 14:25   ` Paul E. McKenney

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