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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ken Goldman <kgoldman-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:42:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151224114241.GA5119@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <n5ed19$pqo$1@ger.gmane.org>

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:02:05AM -0500, Ken Goldman wrote:
> On 12/22/2015 4:23 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >
> > I'd be alarmed if it is that much. The TPM format is very amenable to
> > doing this, a well designed table driven approach should be quite
> > small on the rpc handling side. The key is to not overthink/overdesign
> > it too much.
> 
> Let's expand on "alarmed".  If that just means you're surprised, OK.  If 
> it means the code will be rejected based solely on the size, please tell 
> us now.

Code is not rejected solely on its size as long as is broken up into
reasonable size and otherwise sane patches. It's impossible to give
promise on acceptance without seeing the code first.

For simple context swapping you'd have:

* One data structure per context containing virtual-physical mapping +
  shmem_file for storage.
* Generic swapping code command and response parameters. You get the
  meta-data from CAP_COMMANDS.
* Special cases for less than five commands.

Trivial swapping code would just dump transient data to shmem_file after
taking tpm_mutex and load its own mappings. Then it would do
substitution based on the meta-data given by the TPM. That's it.

It is extremely hard to imagine that one would reach source line counts
described unless the implementation is of extremely bad quality [1].

/Jarkko

[1] I'm considering here only TPM 2.0 implementation.

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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-13 15:42 [PATCH v2 0/3] TPM 2.0 trusted key features for v4.5 Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] keys, trusted: fix: *do not* allow duplicate key options Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:46   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:54     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] keys, trusted: select hash algorithm for TPM2 chips Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] keys, trusted: seal with a TPM2 authorization policy Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:49   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found] ` <20151214095830.GA21291@intel.com>
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     [not found]         ` <20151215233237.GA31965@obsidianresearch.com>
     [not found]           ` <201512161652.tBGGqWPG019442@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]             ` <20151216171633.GB32594@obsidianresearch.com>
     [not found]               ` <201512161721.tBGHLqXh009986@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20151216174523.GC32594@obsidianresearch.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201512161804.tBGI47vu000331@d01av02.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                     ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E69407545@ABGEX74E.FSC.NET>
     [not found]                       ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA5864641@EXCH2010A.sit.fraunhofer.de>
     [not found]                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA5864641-wI35/lLZEdT5yyJIIHUSGGSU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18  0:57                           ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <201512171523.tBHFNlJ6013434@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA58648F1@EXCH2010A.sit.fraunhofer.de>
     [not found]                           ` <201512171620.tBHGK3GE030569@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                             ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA586493C@EXCH2010A.sit.fraunhofer.de>
     [not found]                               ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA586493C-wI35/lLZEdT5yyJIIHUSGGSU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 10:06                                 ` Wilck, Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E6940754C-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 10:51                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                       ` <20151218105148.GA12882-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 10:53                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                           ` <20151218105323.GB12882-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:09                                             ` Wilck, Martin
     [not found]                                               ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E6940754D-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:41                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <20151218114131.GA3287-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 14:10                                                     ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-21 13:22                                                       ` Fuchs, Andreas
     [not found]                                                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA586A57C-wI35/lLZEdRyXeJKmmMAp2SU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-21 14:23                                                           ` Stefan Berger
2015-12-22 21:23                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                             ` <20151222212348.GB9461-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-23 15:02                                                               ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-24 11:42                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20151224114241.GA5119-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-24 15:09                                                                     ` Ken Goldman
2016-01-02 20:39                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20160102203957.GA19490-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-03 13:53                                                                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20160103135346.GA4047-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 16:22                                                                               ` Fuchs, Andreas
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA5877E95-wI35/lLZEdRyXeJKmmMAp2SU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 18:19                                                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <20160104181915.GA15908-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 20:06                                                                                       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05  9:43                                                                                       ` Fuchs, Andreas
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA58784A8-wI35/lLZEdRyXeJKmmMAp2SU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 13:13                                                                                           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 17:39                                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-22  6:59                                                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                         ` <20151222065917.GB7867-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 16:07                                                           ` Fuchs, Andreas
2016-01-07 21:07                                                           ` TPM2 resource manager vendor specific commands Ken Goldman
     [not found]                       ` <201512171533.tBHFXn35003792@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <201512171533.tBHFXn35003792-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:21                           ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Wilck, Martin
     [not found]                             ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E6940754E-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:51                               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                 ` <20151218115137.GA4774-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:57                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-18 13:40                               ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                       ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E69407545-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 15:03                         ` Kenneth Goldman

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