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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Ken Goldman <kgoldman-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 13:39:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160102203957.GA19490@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <n5h1rj$nkb$1@ger.gmane.org>

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:09:43AM -0500, Ken Goldman wrote:

> I can understand small "patches" to fix bugs, but not for new code.

You need to do it in smaller functional stages.

Ie the first step would be to create a new /dev/ node for the
'virtualized' tpm (vs the raw tpm we have now). We'd want to have some
idea exactly what that is and exactly what the UAPI looks like, and
make decsisions like, should there be one per tpm or one for all tpms?

Next step would be to parse commands and require that the commands are
'valid' and of the allowed subset.

Next step would be to parse commands deeper and do access control on
all the tpm objects. Ie a vtpm fd can only use key ids it created.

Next step would be auto-cleanup of created objects when the vtpm fd
closes, ie destroy key ids created on the fd

Next step would be hooking kernel access through the above

Next step would be allowing objects to be swapped in/out

Jason

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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-13 15:42 [PATCH v2 0/3] TPM 2.0 trusted key features for v4.5 Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] keys, trusted: fix: *do not* allow duplicate key options Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:46   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:54     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] keys, trusted: select hash algorithm for TPM2 chips Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] keys, trusted: seal with a TPM2 authorization policy Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:49   ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18  0:57                           ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <201512171523.tBHFNlJ6013434@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA58648F1@EXCH2010A.sit.fraunhofer.de>
     [not found]                           ` <201512171620.tBHGK3GE030569@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                             ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA586493C@EXCH2010A.sit.fraunhofer.de>
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2015-12-18 10:06                                 ` Wilck, Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E6940754C-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 10:51                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                       ` <20151218105148.GA12882-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 10:53                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                           ` <20151218105323.GB12882-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:09                                             ` Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 11:41                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <20151218114131.GA3287-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 14:10                                                     ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-21 13:22                                                       ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2015-12-21 14:23                                                           ` Stefan Berger
2015-12-22 21:23                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-12-23 15:02                                                               ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-24 11:42                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-24 15:09                                                                     ` Ken Goldman
2016-01-02 20:39                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2016-01-03 13:53                                                                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20160103135346.GA4047-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 16:22                                                                               ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2016-01-04 18:19                                                                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <20160104181915.GA15908-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 20:06                                                                                       ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05  9:43                                                                                       ` Fuchs, Andreas
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <9F48E1A823B03B4790B7E6E69430724DA58784A8-wI35/lLZEdRyXeJKmmMAp2SU2VBt9E6NG9Ur7JDdleE@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 13:13                                                                                           ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 17:39                                                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-22  6:59                                                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                         ` <20151222065917.GB7867-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 16:07                                                           ` Fuchs, Andreas
2016-01-07 21:07                                                           ` TPM2 resource manager vendor specific commands Ken Goldman
     [not found]                       ` <201512171533.tBHFXn35003792@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <201512171533.tBHFXn35003792-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:21                           ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Wilck, Martin
     [not found]                             ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E6940754E-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:51                               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                 ` <20151218115137.GA4774-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 11:57                                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-18 13:40                               ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                       ` <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E69407545-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-18 15:03                         ` Kenneth Goldman

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