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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>,
	arm-mail-list <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 20/20] KVM: ARM64: Add a new kvm ARM PMU device
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 15:03:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160109150339.10576e81@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160109122956.GA30867@cbox>

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:29:56 +0100
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 09:36:47PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:56:15PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On 7 January 2016 at 14:49, Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> wrote:
> > > >>> +
> > > >>> +Groups:
> > > >>> +  KVM_DEV_ARM_PMU_GRP_IRQ
> > > >>> +  Attributes:
> > > >>> +    The attr field of kvm_device_attr encodes one value:
> > > >>> +    bits:     | 63 .... 32 | 31 ....  0 |
> > > >>> +    values:   |  reserved  | vcpu_index |
> > > >>> +    A value describing the PMU overflow interrupt number for the specified
> > > >>> +    vcpu_index vcpu. This interrupt could be a PPI or SPI, but for one VM the
> > > >>> +    interrupt type must be same for each vcpu. As a PPI, the interrupt number is
> > > >>> +    same for all vcpus, while as a SPI it must be different for each vcpu.
> > > >>
> > > >> I see we're using vcpu_index rather than MPIDR affinity value
> > > >> for specifying which CPU we're configuring. Is this in line with
> > > >> our planned API for GICv3 configuration?
> > > >>
> > > > Here vcpu_index is used to indexing the vCPU, no special use.
> > > 
> > > Yes, but you can identify the CPU by index, or by its MPIDR.
> > > We had a discussion about which was the best way for doing
> > > the VGIC API, and I can't remember which way round we ended up
> > > going for. Whichever we chose, we should do the same thing here.
> > 
> > I think we should start up a new discussion on this. My understanding,
> > after a chat with Igor, who was involved in the untangling of vcpu-id and
> > apic-id for x86, is that using vcpu-id is preferred, unless of course
> > the device expects an apic-id/mpidr, in which case there's no reason to
> > translate it on both sides.
> > 
> 
> I'm fairly strongly convinced that we should use the full 32-bit
> compressed MPIDR for everything ARM related going forward, as this will
> cover any case required and leverages and architecturally defined way of
> uniquely identifying a (v)CPU.

+1.

vcpu_ids, indexes or any other constructs are just a bunch
of KVM-specific definitions that do not describe the VM from an
architecture PoV. In contrast, the MPIDR is guaranteed to be unique
stable, and identifies a given (v)CPU.

As for the PMU: either 1) we instantiate it together with the CPU
(with a new capability/feature), or 2) we map it to a MPIDR, and
associate it with its vcpu at runtime.

I'm slightly in favor of 1), as it simplifies things a bit, but 2) is
doable as well (GICv3 has similar requirements).

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v8 20/20] KVM: ARM64: Add a new kvm ARM PMU device
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 15:03:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160109150339.10576e81@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160109122956.GA30867@cbox>

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:29:56 +0100
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 09:36:47PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:56:15PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On 7 January 2016 at 14:49, Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com> wrote:
> > > >>> +
> > > >>> +Groups:
> > > >>> +  KVM_DEV_ARM_PMU_GRP_IRQ
> > > >>> +  Attributes:
> > > >>> +    The attr field of kvm_device_attr encodes one value:
> > > >>> +    bits:     | 63 .... 32 | 31 ....  0 |
> > > >>> +    values:   |  reserved  | vcpu_index |
> > > >>> +    A value describing the PMU overflow interrupt number for the specified
> > > >>> +    vcpu_index vcpu. This interrupt could be a PPI or SPI, but for one VM the
> > > >>> +    interrupt type must be same for each vcpu. As a PPI, the interrupt number is
> > > >>> +    same for all vcpus, while as a SPI it must be different for each vcpu.
> > > >>
> > > >> I see we're using vcpu_index rather than MPIDR affinity value
> > > >> for specifying which CPU we're configuring. Is this in line with
> > > >> our planned API for GICv3 configuration?
> > > >>
> > > > Here vcpu_index is used to indexing the vCPU, no special use.
> > > 
> > > Yes, but you can identify the CPU by index, or by its MPIDR.
> > > We had a discussion about which was the best way for doing
> > > the VGIC API, and I can't remember which way round we ended up
> > > going for. Whichever we chose, we should do the same thing here.
> > 
> > I think we should start up a new discussion on this. My understanding,
> > after a chat with Igor, who was involved in the untangling of vcpu-id and
> > apic-id for x86, is that using vcpu-id is preferred, unless of course
> > the device expects an apic-id/mpidr, in which case there's no reason to
> > translate it on both sides.
> > 
> 
> I'm fairly strongly convinced that we should use the full 32-bit
> compressed MPIDR for everything ARM related going forward, as this will
> cover any case required and leverages and architecturally defined way of
> uniquely identifying a (v)CPU.

+1.

vcpu_ids, indexes or any other constructs are just a bunch
of KVM-specific definitions that do not describe the VM from an
architecture PoV. In contrast, the MPIDR is guaranteed to be unique
stable, and identifies a given (v)CPU.

As for the PMU: either 1) we instantiate it together with the CPU
(with a new capability/feature), or 2) we map it to a MPIDR, and
associate it with its vcpu at runtime.

I'm slightly in favor of 1), as it simplifies things a bit, but 2) is
doable as well (GICv3 has similar requirements).

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-09 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 197+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-22  8:07 [PATCH v8 00/20] KVM: ARM64: Add guest PMU support Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07 ` [PATCH v8 01/20] ARM64: Move PMU register related defines to asm/pmu.h Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:20     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:07 ` [PATCH v8 02/20] KVM: ARM64: Define PMU data structure for each vcpu Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:21     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 19:07   ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-07 19:07     ` Andrew Jones
2015-12-22  8:07 ` [PATCH v8 03/20] KVM: ARM64: Add offset defines for PMU registers Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:23   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:23     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:07 ` [PATCH v8 04/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMCR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:07   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:43     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:16     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:16       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:16       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 05/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMSELR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:43     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 06/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMCEID0 and PMCEID1 register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:44   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:44     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 07/20] KVM: ARM64: PMU: Add perf event map and introduce perf event creating function Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:55   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:55     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:48   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:48     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 14:00     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:00       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:00       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 08/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for event typer register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:03   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:03     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:11     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:11       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:11       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 12:36     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 12:36       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 12:36       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:15       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:15         ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 12:09   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 12:09     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 12:09     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:01       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 19:17   ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-07 19:17     ` Andrew Jones
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 09/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for event counter register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:06   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:06     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 10/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMCNTENSET and PMCNTENCLR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:09     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 11/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMINTENSET and PMINTENCLR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:13     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 12/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMOVSSET and PMOVSCLR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:14   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:14     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 13/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMSWINC register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 14/20] KVM: ARM64: Add helper to handle PMCR register bits Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:59   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 15/20] KVM: ARM64: Add a helper to forward trap to guest EL1 Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 16/20] KVM: ARM64: Add access handler for PMUSERENR register Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 10:14   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 10:14     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 11:15     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:15       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 11:15       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 17/20] KVM: ARM64: Add PMU overflow interrupt routing Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:28   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 18/20] KVM: ARM64: Reset PMU state when resetting vcpu Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 19/20] KVM: ARM64: Free perf event of PMU when destroying vcpu Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:51   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:51     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-12-22  8:08 ` [PATCH v8 20/20] KVM: ARM64: Add a new kvm ARM PMU device Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-12-22  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 13:56   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 13:56     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 14:35     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:35       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:35       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:36   ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-07 14:36     ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-07 14:49     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:49       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 14:56       ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-07 14:56         ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-07 20:36         ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-07 20:36           ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-09 12:29           ` Christoffer Dall
2016-01-09 12:29             ` Christoffer Dall
2016-01-09 15:03             ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2016-01-09 15:03               ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-11  8:45               ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-11  8:45                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-11  8:59                 ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-11  8:59                   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-11 11:52                   ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 11:52                     ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 12:03                     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-11 12:03                       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-11 14:07               ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 14:07                 ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 15:09                 ` Christoffer Dall
2016-01-11 15:09                   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-01-11 16:09                   ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:09                     ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:13                     ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-11 16:13                       ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-11 16:48                       ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:48                         ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:21                     ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:21                       ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:29                       ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-11 16:29                         ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-11 16:44                         ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-11 16:44                           ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08  3:06         ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08  3:06           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08 10:24           ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-08 10:24             ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-08 12:15             ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08 12:15               ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08 12:56               ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-08 12:56                 ` Peter Maydell
2016-01-08 13:31                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08 13:31                   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-07 20:18   ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-07 20:18     ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08  2:53     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08  2:53       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08  2:53       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-01-08 11:22       ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08 11:22         ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08 15:20         ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08 15:20           ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08 15:59           ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-08 15:59             ` Andrew Jones
2016-01-07 14:10 ` [PATCH v8 00/20] KVM: ARM64: Add guest PMU support Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 14:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 14:12   ` Will Deacon
2016-01-07 14:12     ` Will Deacon
2016-01-07 14:21     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-07 14:21       ` Marc Zyngier

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