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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC 10/12] x86, rwsem: simplify __down_write
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 08:10:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203081016.GD32652@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454444369-2146-11-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org>


* Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> x86 implementation of __down_write is using inline asm to optimize the
> code flow. This however requires that it has go over an additional hop
> for the slow path call_rwsem_down_write_failed which has to
> save_common_regs/restore_common_regs to preserve the calling convention.
> This, however doesn't add much because the fast path only saves one
> register push/pop (rdx) when compared to the generic implementation:
> 
> Before:
> 0000000000000019 <down_write>:
>   19:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  1e <down_write+0x5>
>   1e:   55                      push   %rbp
>   1f:   48 ba 01 00 00 00 ff    movabs $0xffffffff00000001,%rdx
>   26:   ff ff ff
>   29:   48 89 f8                mov    %rdi,%rax
>   2c:   48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>   2f:   f0 48 0f c1 10          lock xadd %rdx,(%rax)
>   34:   85 d2                   test   %edx,%edx
>   36:   74 05                   je     3d <down_write+0x24>
>   38:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  3d <down_write+0x24>
>   3d:   65 48 8b 04 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rax
>   44:   00 00
>   46:   5d                      pop    %rbp
>   47:   48 89 47 38             mov    %rax,0x38(%rdi)
>   4b:   c3                      retq
> 
> After:
> 0000000000000019 <down_write>:
>   19:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  1e <down_write+0x5>
>   1e:   55                      push   %rbp
>   1f:   48 b8 01 00 00 00 ff    movabs $0xffffffff00000001,%rax
>   26:   ff ff ff
>   29:   48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>   2c:   53                      push   %rbx
>   2d:   48 89 fb                mov    %rdi,%rbx
>   30:   f0 48 0f c1 07          lock xadd %rax,(%rdi)
>   35:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>   38:   74 05                   je     3f <down_write+0x26>
>   3a:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  3f <down_write+0x26>
>   3f:   65 48 8b 04 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rax
>   46:   00 00
>   48:   48 89 43 38             mov    %rax,0x38(%rbx)
>   4c:   5b                      pop    %rbx
>   4d:   5d                      pop    %rbp
>   4e:   c3                      retq

I'm not convinced about the removal of this optimization at all.

> This doesn't seem to justify the code obfuscation and complexity. Use
> the generic implementation instead.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/rwsem.h | 17 +++++------------
>  arch/x86/lib/rwsem.S         |  9 ---------
>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)

Turn the argument around, would we be willing to save two instructions off the 
fast path of a commonly used locking construct, with such a simple optimization:

>  arch/x86/include/asm/rwsem.h | 17 ++++++++++++-----
>  arch/x86/lib/rwsem.S         |  9 +++++++++
>  2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

?

Yes!

So, if you want to remove the assembly code - can we achieve that without hurting 
the generated fast path, using the compiler?

Thanks,

	Ingo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RFC 10/12] x86, rwsem: simplify __down_write
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:10:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203081016.GD32652@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454444369-2146-11-git-send-email-mhocko@kernel.org>


* Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> x86 implementation of __down_write is using inline asm to optimize the
> code flow. This however requires that it has go over an additional hop
> for the slow path call_rwsem_down_write_failed which has to
> save_common_regs/restore_common_regs to preserve the calling convention.
> This, however doesn't add much because the fast path only saves one
> register push/pop (rdx) when compared to the generic implementation:
> 
> Before:
> 0000000000000019 <down_write>:
>   19:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  1e <down_write+0x5>
>   1e:   55                      push   %rbp
>   1f:   48 ba 01 00 00 00 ff    movabs $0xffffffff00000001,%rdx
>   26:   ff ff ff
>   29:   48 89 f8                mov    %rdi,%rax
>   2c:   48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>   2f:   f0 48 0f c1 10          lock xadd %rdx,(%rax)
>   34:   85 d2                   test   %edx,%edx
>   36:   74 05                   je     3d <down_write+0x24>
>   38:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  3d <down_write+0x24>
>   3d:   65 48 8b 04 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rax
>   44:   00 00
>   46:   5d                      pop    %rbp
>   47:   48 89 47 38             mov    %rax,0x38(%rdi)
>   4b:   c3                      retq
> 
> After:
> 0000000000000019 <down_write>:
>   19:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  1e <down_write+0x5>
>   1e:   55                      push   %rbp
>   1f:   48 b8 01 00 00 00 ff    movabs $0xffffffff00000001,%rax
>   26:   ff ff ff
>   29:   48 89 e5                mov    %rsp,%rbp
>   2c:   53                      push   %rbx
>   2d:   48 89 fb                mov    %rdi,%rbx
>   30:   f0 48 0f c1 07          lock xadd %rax,(%rdi)
>   35:   48 85 c0                test   %rax,%rax
>   38:   74 05                   je     3f <down_write+0x26>
>   3a:   e8 00 00 00 00          callq  3f <down_write+0x26>
>   3f:   65 48 8b 04 25 00 00    mov    %gs:0x0,%rax
>   46:   00 00
>   48:   48 89 43 38             mov    %rax,0x38(%rbx)
>   4c:   5b                      pop    %rbx
>   4d:   5d                      pop    %rbp
>   4e:   c3                      retq

I'm not convinced about the removal of this optimization at all.

> This doesn't seem to justify the code obfuscation and complexity. Use
> the generic implementation instead.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/rwsem.h | 17 +++++------------
>  arch/x86/lib/rwsem.S         |  9 ---------
>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)

Turn the argument around, would we be willing to save two instructions off the 
fast path of a commonly used locking construct, with such a simple optimization:

>  arch/x86/include/asm/rwsem.h | 17 ++++++++++++-----
>  arch/x86/lib/rwsem.S         |  9 +++++++++
>  2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

?

Yes!

So, if you want to remove the assembly code - can we achieve that without hurting 
the generated fast path, using the compiler?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-02 20:19 [RFC 0/12] introduce down_write_killable for rw_semaphore Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 01/12] locking, rwsem: get rid of __down_write_nested Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 02/12] locking, rwsem: drop explicit memory barriers Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 03/12] locking, rwsem: introduce basis for down_write_killable Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 04/12] alpha, rwsem: provide __down_write_killable Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 05/12] ia64, " Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 06/12] s390, " Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 07/12] sh, " Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 11:19   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-02-03 11:19     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-02-03 12:11     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 12:11       ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 08/12] sparc, " Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 09/12] xtensa, " Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 10/12] x86, rwsem: simplify __down_write Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03  8:10   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-02-03  8:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 12:10     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 12:10       ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-03 16:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 16:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 22:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-03 22:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-09 14:40       ` David Howells
2016-06-09 14:40         ` David Howells
2016-06-09 17:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-09 17:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-10 16:39           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-06-10 16:39             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 11/12] x86, rwsem: provide __down_write_killable Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 16:41   ` [RFC 11/12 v1] " Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 16:41     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 16:41     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 16:41     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19 ` [RFC 12/12] locking, rwsem: provide down_write_killable Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 20:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-19 12:15 ` [RFC 0/12] introduce down_write_killable for rw_semaphore Michal Hocko
2016-02-19 12:15   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 12:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 12:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 12:56   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 12:56     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 13:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 13:17       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 13:28       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 13:28         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 13:43         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 13:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 14:41           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 14:41             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-10 10:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-10 10:24               ` Ingo Molnar

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