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From: David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	PaX Team <pageexec@freemail.hu>, Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: vdso: Mark vDSO code as read-only
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:43:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217234306.GA59532@davidb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK22LfvLdMfWz_vbQsJ3bbjSdJrYAp=5yWzD4yRNTTGFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 03:00:52PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 01:52:33PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although the arm vDSO is cleanly separated by code/data with the code
>>>> being read-only in userspace mappings, the code page is still writable
>>>> from the kernel.  There have been exploits (such as
>>>> http://itszn.com/blog/?p=21) that take advantage of this on x86 to go
>>>> from a bad kernel write to full root.
>>>>
>>>> Prevent this specific exploit on arm by putting the vDSO code page in
>>>> post-init read-only memory as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the vdso dynamically built at init time like on x86, or can this
>>> just use .rodata directly?
>>
>>
>> On ARM, it is patched during init.  Arm64's is just plain read-only.
>
>Okay, great. I've added this to my postinit-readonly series (which I
>just refreshed and sent out again...)

However, this distinction between .rodata and .data..ro_after_init is
kind of fuzzy, anyway, since they both get made actually read-only at
the same time (post init).  The patch actually does work fine with the
vDSO page in .rodata, since the patching happens during init.

Is there a possible future consideration to perhaps make .rodata read
only much earlier?

David

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: david.brown@linaro.org (David Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: vdso: Mark vDSO code as read-only
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:43:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217234306.GA59532@davidb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK22LfvLdMfWz_vbQsJ3bbjSdJrYAp=5yWzD4yRNTTGFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 03:00:52PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 01:52:33PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although the arm vDSO is cleanly separated by code/data with the code
>>>> being read-only in userspace mappings, the code page is still writable
>>>> from the kernel.  There have been exploits (such as
>>>> http://itszn.com/blog/?p=21) that take advantage of this on x86 to go
>>>> from a bad kernel write to full root.
>>>>
>>>> Prevent this specific exploit on arm by putting the vDSO code page in
>>>> post-init read-only memory as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the vdso dynamically built at init time like on x86, or can this
>>> just use .rodata directly?
>>
>>
>> On ARM, it is patched during init.  Arm64's is just plain read-only.
>
>Okay, great. I've added this to my postinit-readonly series (which I
>just refreshed and sent out again...)

However, this distinction between .rodata and .data..ro_after_init is
kind of fuzzy, anyway, since they both get made actually read-only at
the same time (post init).  The patch actually does work fine with the
vDSO page in .rodata, since the patching happens during init.

Is there a possible future consideration to perhaps make .rodata read
only much earlier?

David

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	PaX Team <pageexec@freemail.hu>, Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH] ARM: vdso: Mark vDSO code as read-only
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:43:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160217234306.GA59532@davidb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jK22LfvLdMfWz_vbQsJ3bbjSdJrYAp=5yWzD4yRNTTGFQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 03:00:52PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 01:52:33PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM, David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Although the arm vDSO is cleanly separated by code/data with the code
>>>> being read-only in userspace mappings, the code page is still writable
>>>> from the kernel.  There have been exploits (such as
>>>> http://itszn.com/blog/?p=21) that take advantage of this on x86 to go
>>>> from a bad kernel write to full root.
>>>>
>>>> Prevent this specific exploit on arm by putting the vDSO code page in
>>>> post-init read-only memory as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the vdso dynamically built at init time like on x86, or can this
>>> just use .rodata directly?
>>
>>
>> On ARM, it is patched during init.  Arm64's is just plain read-only.
>
>Okay, great. I've added this to my postinit-readonly series (which I
>just refreshed and sent out again...)

However, this distinction between .rodata and .data..ro_after_init is
kind of fuzzy, anyway, since they both get made actually read-only at
the same time (post init).  The patch actually does work fine with the
vDSO page in .rodata, since the patching happens during init.

Is there a possible future consideration to perhaps make .rodata read
only much earlier?

David

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-17 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-19 18:08 [PATCH v4 0/8] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] asm-generic: consolidate mark_rodata_ro() Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] lib: add "on" and "off" to strtobool Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-20  2:09   ` Joe Perches
2016-01-20  2:09     ` [kernel-hardening] " Joe Perches
2016-01-22 23:29     ` Kees Cook
2016-01-22 23:29       ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-22 23:29       ` Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] param: convert some "on"/"off" users " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-27 21:11   ` David Brown
2016-01-27 21:11     ` David Brown
2016-01-27 21:19     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-27 21:19       ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28  0:09       ` [PATCH] arm64: make CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA non-optional David Brown
2016-01-28  0:09         ` [kernel-hardening] " David Brown
2016-01-28  0:09         ` David Brown
2016-01-28  0:09         ` David Brown
2016-01-28  0:09         ` David Brown
2016-01-28  0:14         ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28  0:14           ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-28  0:14           ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28  0:14           ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28  0:14           ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28  8:20           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-28  8:20             ` [kernel-hardening] " Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-28  8:20             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-28  8:20             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-28  8:20             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-28 11:06         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 11:06           ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 11:06           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 11:06           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 11:06           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 14:06           ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 14:06             ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-28 14:06             ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 14:06             ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 14:06             ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 14:59             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 14:59               ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 14:59               ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 14:59               ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 14:59               ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-28 15:17               ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 15:17                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-28 15:17                 ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 15:17                 ` Kees Cook
2016-01-28 15:17                 ` Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] init: create cmdline param to disable readonly Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] x86: make CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA non-optional Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] lkdtm: verify that __ro_after_init works correctly Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] x86, vdso: mark vDSO read-only after init Kees Cook
2016-01-19 18:08   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-01-19 19:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-19 19:09     ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-19 19:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-20  2:51   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20  2:51     ` [kernel-hardening] " H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20  2:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-20  2:56     ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-20  2:56     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-22 17:19 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4 0/8] introduce post-init read-only memory David Brown
2016-01-22 17:19   ` David Brown
2016-01-22 19:16   ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2016-01-22 19:57     ` Kees Cook
2016-01-22 19:57       ` Kees Cook
2016-01-23  9:49       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-01-23  9:49         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-02-16 21:36 ` [PATCH] ARM: vdso: Mark vDSO code as read-only David Brown
2016-02-16 21:36   ` [kernel-hardening] " David Brown
2016-02-16 21:36   ` David Brown
2016-02-16 21:52   ` Kees Cook
2016-02-16 21:52     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-02-16 21:52     ` Kees Cook
2016-02-16 21:52     ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17  5:20     ` David Brown
2016-02-17  5:20       ` [kernel-hardening] " David Brown
2016-02-17  5:20       ` David Brown
2016-02-17  5:20       ` David Brown
2016-02-17 23:00       ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:00         ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:00         ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:00         ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:43         ` David Brown [this message]
2016-02-17 23:43           ` [kernel-hardening] " David Brown
2016-02-17 23:43           ` David Brown
2016-02-17 23:43           ` David Brown
2016-02-17 23:48           ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:48             ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:48             ` Kees Cook
2016-02-17 23:48             ` Kees Cook
2016-02-18 10:46             ` PaX Team
2016-02-18 10:46               ` [kernel-hardening] " PaX Team
2016-02-18 10:46               ` PaX Team
2016-02-18 10:46               ` PaX Team

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