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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 07:32:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160307133249.GA18442@ubuntu-xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737s32rbe.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 04:07:49PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 04:43:06PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 12:03:50PM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> >> >> The mounter of a filesystem should be privileged towards the
> >> >> inodes of that filesystem. Extend the checks in
> >> >> inode_owner_or_capable() and capable_wrt_inode_uidgid() to
> >> >> permit access by users priviliged in the user namespace of the
> >> >> inode's superblock.
> >> >
> >> > Eric - I've discovered a problem related to this patch. The patches
> >> > you've already applied to your testing branch make it so that s_user_ns
> >> > can be an unprivileged user for proc and kernfs-based mounts. In some
> >> > cases DAC is the only thing protecting files in these mounts (ignoring
> >> > MAC), and with this patch an unprivileged user could bypass DAC.
> >> >
> >> > There's a simple solution - always set s_user_ns to &init_user_ns for
> >> > those filesystems. I think this is the right thing to do, since the
> >> > backing store behind these filesystems are really kernel objects.  But
> >> > this would break the assumption behind your patch "userns: Simpilify
> >> > MNT_NODEV handling" and cause a regression in mounting behavior.
> >> >
> >> > I've come up with several possible solutions for this conflict.
> >> >
> >> >  1. Drop this patch and keep on setting s_user_ns to unprivilged users.
> >> >     This would be unfortunate because I think this patch does make sense
> >> >     for most filesystems.
> >> >  2. Restrict this patch so that a user privileged towards s_user_ns is
> >> >     only privileged towards the super blocks inodes if s_user_ns has a
> >> >     mapping for both i_uid and i_gid. This is better than (1) but still
> >> >     not ideal in my mind.
> >> >  3. Drop your patch and maintain the current MNT_NODEV behavior.
> >> >  4. Add a new s_iflags flag to indicate a super block is from an
> >> >     unprivileged mount, and use this in your patch instead of s_user_ns.
> >> >
> >> > Any preference, or any other ideas?
> >> 
> >> In general this is only an issue if uids and gids on the filesystem
> >> do not map into the user namespace.
> >
> > Yes, both capable_wrt_inode_uidgid and inode_owner_or_capable will
> > return true for a privileged user in the current namespace if the ids
> > map into that namespace.
> >
> >> Therefore the general fix is to limit the logic of checking for
> >> capabilities in s_user_ns if we are dealing with INVALID_UID and
> >> INVALID_GID.  For proc and kernfs that should never be the case
> >> so the problem becomes a non-issue.
> >> 
> >> Further I would look at limiting that relaxation to just
> >> inode_change_ok.  So that we can easily wrap that check per filesystem
> >> and deny the relaxation for proc and kernfs.  proc and kernfs already
> >> have wrappers for .setattr so denying changes when !uid_vaid and
> >> !gid_valid would be a trivial addition, and ensure calamity does
> >> not ensure.
> >> 
> >> Furthmore by limiting any additional to inode_change_ok we keep
> >> the work of the additional tests off of the fast paths.
> >
> > So then the inode would need to be chowned before a privileged user in a
> > non-init namespace would be capable towards it. That seems workable. It
> > looks like INVALID_UID and INVALID_GID do map into init_user_ns (which
> > seems a bit odd) so real root remains capable towards those indoes.
> >
> > That seems okay to me then.
> 
> If I was not clear I was suggesting that we allow a sufficiently
> privileged user in the filesysteme's s_user_ns to allow chowning files
> with INVALID_UID and INVALID_GID.

Right, I got that.

> The global root user would always be able to do that because unless
> capabilities are dropped it is sufficiently privileged in ever user
> namespace.

Sure. I was just commenting on one result - that ns-root has to chown
the file before being privileged wrt that file but global root does not,
on account of the fact that the invalid ids are mapped in init_user_ns.

Seth

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-04 18:03 [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 01/18] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 10/18] fs: Update posix_acl support to handle user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
     [not found] ` <1451930639-94331-1-git-send-email-seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 02/18] block_dev: Check permissions towards block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 03/18] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 12:09     ` [PATCH] fs: remove excess check for in_userns Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 13:45       ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 14:19         ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 14:19         ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-22 23:19         ` James Morris
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 04/18] selinux: Add support for unprivileged mounts from user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 05/18] userns: Replace in_userns with current_in_userns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 06/18] Smack: Handle labels consistently in untrusted mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 07/18] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 08/18] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 09/18] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-03 17:02     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-04 22:43       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-06 15:48         ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-06 22:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-07 13:32             ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2016-03-28 16:59         ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-30  1:36           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-30 14:58             ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-30 20:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 12/18] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID in s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 13/18] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 14/18] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 15/18] fuse: Add support for pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 10:53     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:17       ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 16/18] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:29     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:18       ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 14:48         ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:48           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]           ` <CAJfpegv5JmB15yHpjYxVeOYdWWkoLMftr9-e_iS93Y_7m=t4Zw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 15:25             ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 15:25               ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 15:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                 ` <CAJfpegv5KR_Hi-79a8oyb+R+tv9W3RYqy5pngUKSyauVNk2ScQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 17:07                   ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 17:07                     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-14 20:58                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-25 20:31                       ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 17/18] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 18/18] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 13:08     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-25 19:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-25 20:01   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-25 20:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-25 20:36     ` Seth Forshee

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