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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:58:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160330145820.GA41461@ubuntu-hedt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twjoiw6u.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 08:36:09PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 04:43:06PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> In general this is only an issue if uids and gids on the filesystem
> >> do not map into the user namespace.
> >> 
> >> Therefore the general fix is to limit the logic of checking for
> >> capabilities in s_user_ns if we are dealing with INVALID_UID and
> >> INVALID_GID.  For proc and kernfs that should never be the case
> >> so the problem becomes a non-issue.
> >> 
> >> Further I would look at limiting that relaxation to just
> >> inode_change_ok. 
> >
> > Finally got around to implementing this today; is the patch below what
> > you had in mind?
> 
> Pretty much.
> 
> For the same reason that capble_wrt_inode_uidgid(inode) had to look
> at both inode->i_uid and inode->i_gid I think we need to look at
> both inode->i_uid and inode->i_gid in those case.
> 
> I am worried about chgrp_ok in cases such as inode->i_uid is valid
> but unmapped.  I have a similiar worry about chown_ok where
> inode->i_gid is valid but unmapped (although that worry is less
> serious).

That makes sense.

So then what is wanted is to check that the other id is either invalid,
or else it maps into s_user_ns. So for chown_ok() something like this:

    if (!uid_valid(inode->i_uid) &&
        (!gid_valid(inode->i_gid) || kgid_has_mapping(inode->i_sb->s_user_ns, inode->i_gid)) &&
        ns_capable(inode->i_sb->s_user_ns, CAP_CHOWN))
            return true;

and likewise for chgrp_ok(). Does that satisfy your concerns?

> >> So that we can easily wrap that check per filesystem
> >> and deny the relaxation for proc and kernfs.  proc and kernfs already
> >> have wrappers for .setattr so denying changes when !uid_vaid and
> >> !gid_valid would be a trivial addition, and ensure calamity does
> >> not ensure.
> >
> > I'm confused about this part though. As you say above, proc and kernfs
> > will never have inodes with invalid ids, so it's not an issue. Do you
> > just mean this to be extra insurance against problems?
> 
> I meant two things.
> 1) As filesystems explicitly have to call inode_change_ok they can
>    over ride the default if it is possible.
> 
> 2) Because being paranoid about backward compatibility matters, it
>    almost certainly workth add adding a check:
>    "if (!uid_valid(inode->i_uid) ||!gid_valid(inode->i_gid)) return -EPERM"
>    To proc and sysfs just before they call inode_change_ok just so we
>    don't need to analyze them and confirm that they don't use
>    INVALID_UID.
> 
>    That just makes the patch more robust.
> 
>    The we could leave removing that code for a follow on patch where
>    someone takes the time to read through and audit all of the proc and
>    sysfs code to ensure that the case does not arise, instead of just
>    implicitily assuming it.
> 
>    That is the usual pattern when pushing down changes.  Do something
>    that is easily guaranteed to work, and leave the careful looking for
>    a patch all of it's own.

Okay, I'll add checks.

Thanks,
Seth


  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-04 18:03 [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 01/18] block_dev: Support checking inode permissions in lookup_bdev() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 10/18] fs: Update posix_acl support to handle user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
     [not found] ` <1451930639-94331-1-git-send-email-seth.forshee-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 02/18] block_dev: Check permissions towards block device inode when mounting Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 03/18] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 12:09     ` [PATCH] fs: remove excess check for in_userns Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 13:45       ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-15 14:19         ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-15 14:19         ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2016-03-22 23:19         ` James Morris
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 04/18] selinux: Add support for unprivileged mounts from user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 05/18] userns: Replace in_userns with current_in_userns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 06/18] Smack: Handle labels consistently in untrusted mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 07/18] fs: Check for invalid i_uid in may_follow_link() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 08/18] cred: Reject inodes with invalid ids in set_create_file_as() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 09/18] fs: Refuse uid/gid changes which don't map into s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 11/18] fs: Ensure the mounter of a filesystem is privileged towards its inodes Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-03 17:02     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-04 22:43       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-06 15:48         ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-06 22:07           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-07 13:32             ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-28 16:59         ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-30  1:36           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-30 14:58             ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2016-03-30 20:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 12/18] fs: Don't remove suid for CAP_FSETID in s_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 13/18] fs: Allow superblock owner to access do_remount_sb() Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 14/18] capabilities: Allow privileged user in s_user_ns to set security.* xattrs Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 15/18] fuse: Add support for pid namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 10:53     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:17       ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 16/18] fuse: Support fuse filesystems outside of init_user_ns Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:29     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:18       ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 14:48         ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-09 14:48           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]           ` <CAJfpegv5JmB15yHpjYxVeOYdWWkoLMftr9-e_iS93Y_7m=t4Zw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 15:25             ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 15:25               ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 15:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                 ` <CAJfpegv5KR_Hi-79a8oyb+R+tv9W3RYqy5pngUKSyauVNk2ScQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 17:07                   ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 17:07                     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-14 20:58                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-03-25 20:31                       ` Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 17/18] fuse: Restrict allow_other to the superblock's namespace or a descendant Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-04 18:03   ` [PATCH RESEND v2 18/18] fuse: Allow user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2016-01-04 18:03     ` Seth Forshee
2016-03-09 13:08     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-01-25 19:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 00/19] Support fuse mounts in user namespaces Seth Forshee
2016-01-25 20:01   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-25 20:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-01-25 20:36     ` Seth Forshee

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