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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: catalin.marinas@arm.com
Cc: arnd@arndb.de, ynorov@caviumnetworks.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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	klimov.linux@gmail.com, Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com, agraf@suse.de,
	Prasun.Kapoor@caviumnetworks.com, kilobyte@angband.pl,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/23] all: syscall wrappers: add documentation
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:43:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160526.124344.1660236473079504674.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160526142057.GA7456@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:20:58 +0100

> We can solve (a) by adding more __SC_WRAP annotations in the generic
> unistd.h.
 ...

I really think it's much more robust to clear the tops of the registers
by default.  Then you won't be auditing constantly and adding more and
more wrappers.

You can't even quantify the performance gains for me in any precise
way.  Whatever you gain by avoiding the 64-bit
decompostion/reconstitution for those few system calls with 64-bit
registers, you are losing by calling the wrappers for more common
system calls, more often.

"it's more natural to pass 64-bit values in a register" is not a clear
justification for this change.

This looks way over engineered to me.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: davem@davemloft.net (David Miller)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 01/23] all: syscall wrappers: add documentation
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:43:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160526.124344.1660236473079504674.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160526142057.GA7456@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:20:58 +0100

> We can solve (a) by adding more __SC_WRAP annotations in the generic
> unistd.h.
 ...

I really think it's much more robust to clear the tops of the registers
by default.  Then you won't be auditing constantly and adding more and
more wrappers.

You can't even quantify the performance gains for me in any precise
way.  Whatever you gain by avoiding the 64-bit
decompostion/reconstitution for those few system calls with 64-bit
registers, you are losing by calling the wrappers for more common
system calls, more often.

"it's more natural to pass 64-bit values in a register" is not a clear
justification for this change.

This looks way over engineered to me.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-26 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 207+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-24  0:04 [PATCH v6 00/21] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 01/23] all: syscall wrappers: add documentation Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 19:30   ` David Miller
2016-05-25 19:30     ` David Miller
2016-05-25 20:03     ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 20:03       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 20:03       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 20:21       ` David Miller
2016-05-25 20:21         ` David Miller
2016-05-25 20:47         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 20:47           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 20:50           ` David Miller
2016-05-25 20:50             ` David Miller
2016-05-25 21:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 21:01               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 21:28               ` David Miller
2016-05-25 21:28                 ` David Miller
2016-05-26 14:20                 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 14:20                   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 14:50                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-26 14:50                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-26 14:50                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-26 15:19                     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 15:19                       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 19:43                   ` David Miller [this message]
2016-05-26 19:43                     ` David Miller
2016-05-27 10:10                     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27 10:10                       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 20:48                 ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 20:48                   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 20:48                   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 22:29                   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-26 22:29                     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27  0:37                     ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27  0:37                       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27  0:37                       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27  6:03                       ` Heiko Carstens
2016-05-27  6:03                         ` Heiko Carstens
2016-05-27  8:42                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-27  8:42                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-27  9:30                           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27  9:30                             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27 10:49                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-27 10:49                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-27 13:04                               ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27 13:04                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27 16:58                                 ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27 16:58                                   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27 16:58                                   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27 17:36                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27 17:36                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27  9:01                         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-05-27  9:01                           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-06-14 23:08                     ` Yury Norov
2016-06-14 23:08                       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-14 23:08                       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-27  5:52     ` Heiko Carstens
2016-05-27  5:52       ` Heiko Carstens
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 02/23] all: introduce COMPAT_WRAPPER option and enable it for s390 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 03/23] all: s390: move wrapper infrastructure to generic headers Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 04/23] all: s390: move compat_wrappers.c from arch/s390/kernel to kernel/ Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 05/23] all: wrap needed syscalls in generic unistd Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 06/23] compat ABI: use non-compat openat and open_by_handle_at variants Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 07/23] 32-bit ABI: introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T config option Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 08/23] arm64: ilp32: add documentation on the ILP32 ABI for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 09/23] arm64: ensure the kernel is compiled for LP64 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 10/23] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 11/23] arm64:uapi: set __BITS_PER_LONG correctly for ILP32 and LP64 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 12/23] thread: move thread bits accessors to separated file Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 13/23] arm64: introduce is_a32_task and is_a32_thread (for AArch32 compat) Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-12 12:21   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:21     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:21     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:08     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:08       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:08       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 17:56       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-12 17:56         ` Yury Norov
2016-06-12 17:56         ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 14/23] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} and TIF_32BIT_AARCH64 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` [PATCH 14/23] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task, thread} " Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` [PATCH 14/23] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} " Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 15/23] arm64: introduce binfmt_elf32.c Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 16/23] arm64: ilp32: introduce binfmt_ilp32.c Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 13:49   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-05-26 13:49     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-05-26 13:49     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-05-26 21:08     ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 21:08       ` Yury Norov
2016-05-26 21:08       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-15  0:40     ` Yury Norov
2016-06-15  0:40       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-15  0:40       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-13  3:05   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-13  3:05     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-13  3:05     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-13 13:22     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-13 13:22       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-13 13:22       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 17/23] arm64: ptrace: handle ptrace_request differently for aarch32 and ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-08  1:34   ` zhouchengming
2016-06-08  1:34     ` zhouchengming
2016-06-08  1:34     ` zhouchengming
2016-06-08 17:00     ` Yury Norov
2016-06-08 17:00       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-08 17:00       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-25  9:36       ` zhouchengming
2016-06-25  9:36         ` zhouchengming
2016-06-25  9:36         ` zhouchengming
2016-06-25 14:15         ` Bamvor Zhang
2016-06-25 14:15           ` Bamvor Zhang
2016-06-27  2:09           ` zhouchengming
2016-06-27  2:09             ` zhouchengming
2016-06-27  2:09             ` zhouchengming
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 18/23] arm64: ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 20:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 20:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 19/23] arm64: signal: share lp64 signal routines to ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 20/23] arm64: signal32: move ilp32 and aarch32 common code to separated file Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 21/23] arm64: ilp32: introduce ilp32-specific handlers for sigframe and ucontext Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-04 11:34   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-04 11:34     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-04 11:34     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:34     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:34       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:34       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:12     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:12       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 13:12       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 17:44     ` Yury Norov
2016-06-12 17:44       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-12 17:44       ` Yury Norov
2016-06-16 11:21       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-16 11:21         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-16 11:21         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:39   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:39     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-06-12 12:39     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 22/23] arm64:ilp32: add vdso-ilp32 and use for signal return Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04 ` [PATCH 23/23] arm64:ilp32: add ARM64_ILP32 to Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-24  0:04   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 10:42 ` [PATCH v6 00/21] ILP32 for ARM64 Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-25 10:42   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-25 10:42   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-05-25 16:41   ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 16:41     ` Yury Norov
2016-05-25 16:41     ` Yury Norov
2016-06-02 19:03 ` Yury Norov
2016-06-02 19:03   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-02 19:03   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-02 19:03   ` Yury Norov
2016-06-03 11:02   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-06-03 11:02     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-06-03 11:02     ` Szabolcs Nagy

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