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From: takahiro.akashi@linaro.org (AKASHI Takahiro)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v19 10/13] arm64: kdump: add VMCOREINFO's for user-space coredump tools
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:42:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623081545.GA20774@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160623071412.GA16398@dhcppc9>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:44:12PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> Hi Takahiro,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> On 22/06/2016:02:59:41 PM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:02:22AM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> > > +Atsushi
> > > 
> > > Hi Takahiro,
> > > 
> > > On 16/06/2016:11:48:28 PM, Geoff Levand wrote:
> > > > From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
> > > > 
> > > > For the current crash utility, we need to know, at least,
> > > >   - kimage_voffset
> > > >   - PHYS_OFFSET
> > > > to handle the contents of core dump file (/proc/vmcore) correctly due to
> > > > the introduction of KASLR (CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE) in v4.6.
> > > > This patch puts them as VMCOREINFO's into the file.
> > > > 
> > > >   - VA_BITS
> > > > is also added for makedumpfile command.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for adding them. They are quite helpful for makedumpfile as well.
> > > 
> > > > More VMCOREINFO's may be added later.
> > > 
> > > Yes, we will need to pass VMCOREINFO_SYMBOL(_text) and VMCOREINFO_SYMBOL(_end)
> > > in order to work with makedumpfile.
> > 
> > I know that adding those symbols is the easiest way, but
> > theoretically, if we know the physical address of "swapper_pg_dir",
> 
> But, we know only it's virtual address. 

What I meant here is that, if we know the physical address of "swapper_pg_dir",
we don't have to know neither of "_text", "_end", "kimage_voffset" nor
"PHYS_OFFSET".
I just wanted to ask you whether you thought of this possibility.
> 
> > instead of its virtual address, we can access all the memory pointed to
> > by any kernel virtual address.
> > How do you rationalize that we need to know "_text" and "_end"?
> 
> Well, we need some mechanism so that we can decide if an address can be
> translated using linear mapping of virt_to_phys(). 

All the entries in MMU tables are based on "physical" addresses,
and so we don't care whether a given address is in linear mapping or not
in walking through MMU.
See what I mean?

Thanks,
-Takahiro AKASHI

> Alternatively, probably we can do like this:
> -- Translate all address between "SYMBOL(swapper_pg_dir)"  and "SYMBOL(swapper_pg_dir)
>  + SWAPPER_DIR_SIZE" using virt_to_phys() and now we can read values from
>  dumpfile using that physical address. This way we can get PGD/PMD/PUD values.
> -- PTE values may lie out side this range, however that address should still be
> linearly translatable. We can use virt_to_phys() macro from them as well.
> 
> In summary, we can translate address of PGD/PMD/PUD/PTE using virt_to_phys()
> and rest all can be translated using page table entries.
> 
> ~Pratyush

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From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: Pratyush Anand <panand@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Atsushi Kumagai <ats-kumagai@wm.jp.nec.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v19 10/13] arm64: kdump: add VMCOREINFO's for user-space coredump tools
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:42:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623081545.GA20774@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160623071412.GA16398@dhcppc9>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:44:12PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> Hi Takahiro,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> On 22/06/2016:02:59:41 PM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:02:22AM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> > > +Atsushi
> > > 
> > > Hi Takahiro,
> > > 
> > > On 16/06/2016:11:48:28 PM, Geoff Levand wrote:
> > > > From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
> > > > 
> > > > For the current crash utility, we need to know, at least,
> > > >   - kimage_voffset
> > > >   - PHYS_OFFSET
> > > > to handle the contents of core dump file (/proc/vmcore) correctly due to
> > > > the introduction of KASLR (CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE) in v4.6.
> > > > This patch puts them as VMCOREINFO's into the file.
> > > > 
> > > >   - VA_BITS
> > > > is also added for makedumpfile command.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for adding them. They are quite helpful for makedumpfile as well.
> > > 
> > > > More VMCOREINFO's may be added later.
> > > 
> > > Yes, we will need to pass VMCOREINFO_SYMBOL(_text) and VMCOREINFO_SYMBOL(_end)
> > > in order to work with makedumpfile.
> > 
> > I know that adding those symbols is the easiest way, but
> > theoretically, if we know the physical address of "swapper_pg_dir",
> 
> But, we know only it's virtual address. 

What I meant here is that, if we know the physical address of "swapper_pg_dir",
we don't have to know neither of "_text", "_end", "kimage_voffset" nor
"PHYS_OFFSET".
I just wanted to ask you whether you thought of this possibility.
> 
> > instead of its virtual address, we can access all the memory pointed to
> > by any kernel virtual address.
> > How do you rationalize that we need to know "_text" and "_end"?
> 
> Well, we need some mechanism so that we can decide if an address can be
> translated using linear mapping of virt_to_phys(). 

All the entries in MMU tables are based on "physical" addresses,
and so we don't care whether a given address is in linear mapping or not
in walking through MMU.
See what I mean?

Thanks,
-Takahiro AKASHI

> Alternatively, probably we can do like this:
> -- Translate all address between "SYMBOL(swapper_pg_dir)"  and "SYMBOL(swapper_pg_dir)
>  + SWAPPER_DIR_SIZE" using virt_to_phys() and now we can read values from
>  dumpfile using that physical address. This way we can get PGD/PMD/PUD values.
> -- PTE values may lie out side this range, however that address should still be
> linearly translatable. We can use virt_to_phys() macro from them as well.
> 
> In summary, we can translate address of PGD/PMD/PUD/PTE using virt_to_phys()
> and rest all can be translated using page table entries.
> 
> ~Pratyush

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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 23:48 [PATCH v19 00/13] arm64 kexec kernel patches Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 05/13] arm64/kexec: Add pr_debug output Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20 16:06   ` James Morse
2016-06-20 16:06     ` James Morse
2016-06-20 16:50     ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20 16:50       ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 02/13] arm64: Add back cpu reset routines Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 04/13] arm64/kexec: Enable kexec in the arm64 defconfig Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 01/13] arm64: Add cpus_are_stuck_in_kernel Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 03/13] arm64/kexec: Add core kexec support Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20 15:36   ` James Morse
2016-06-20 15:36     ` James Morse
2016-06-20 16:49     ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20 16:49       ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 11/13] arm64: kdump: enable kdump in the arm64 defconfig Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 13/13] Documentation: dt: usable-memory and elfcorehdr nodes for arm64 kexec Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 12/13] arm64: kdump: update a kernel doc Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 10/13] arm64: kdump: add VMCOREINFO's for user-space coredump tools Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20  5:32   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-20  5:32     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-22  5:59     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-22  5:59       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-23  7:14       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-23  7:14         ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-23  8:42         ` AKASHI Takahiro [this message]
2016-06-23  8:42           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-23 15:46           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-23 15:46             ` Pratyush Anand
2016-06-30  0:44             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-30  0:44               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 07/13] arm64: limit memory regions based on DT property, usable-memory Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 08/13] arm64: kdump: implement machine_crash_shutdown() Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 06/13] arm64: kdump: reserve memory for crash dump kernel Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand
2016-06-20 16:07   ` James Morse
2016-06-20 16:07     ` James Morse
2016-06-21  1:23     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-21  1:23       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-06-16 23:48 ` [PATCH v19 09/13] arm64: kdump: add kdump support Geoff Levand
2016-06-16 23:48   ` Geoff Levand

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