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From: Andrey Pronin <apronin@chromium.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	Marcel Selhorst <tpmdd@selhorst.net>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christophe Ricard <christophe.ricard@gmail.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:49:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720194912.GA61154@apronin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160720190303.GA5620@rob-hp-laptop>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:03:03PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 08:41:24PM -0700, Andrey Pronin wrote:

Hi Rob,

> As I mentioned, there may be common properties. It doesn't seem you 
> looked, so I did:
> 
> - spi-rx-delay-us  - (optional) Microsecond delay after a read transfer.
> - spi-tx-delay-us  - (optional) Microsecond delay after a write transfer.
> 
> Seems to me setting one or both of these should work for you.
>

Yes, good catch, my fault I didn't see those.
But they are not exactly what I mean and need. I don't need delay after
each read or write transfer. What is needed is a guaranteed time
between transfers.

So, if the next transaction doesn't come withing the next X ms (or us),
we don't waste time on inserting a delays after this transaction at all.
Following the description and always inserting a delay must work well
for short microseconds-long delays. For longer milliseconds-long delays
a different strategy of checking the time when the previous transaction
was and only delaying if it was not too long ago is better.

Thus, I won't be able to re-use these properties anyways based on their
current description in bindings/spi/spi-bus.txt.

> > +- sleep-delay-ms: Time after the last SPI activity, after which the chip
> > +  may go to sleep.
> > +- wake-start-delay-ms: Time after initiating wake up before the chip is
> > +  ready to accept commands over SPI.
> 
> I also asked why these 2 can't be hard-coded in the driver?
>

Sorry, I just updated this patch description in v2 to indicate why they are not
hard-coded, but didn't answer explicitly. As the firmware changes, a different
revision of it can have a different time before it sleeps in its configuration,
or the time it takes it to startup may be different. Thus, there's a way to
set it here w/o changing the driver.

Andrey

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From: Andrey Pronin <apronin-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Christophe Ricard
	<christophe.ricard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:49:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720194912.GA61154@apronin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160720190303.GA5620@rob-hp-laptop>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:03:03PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 08:41:24PM -0700, Andrey Pronin wrote:

Hi Rob,

> As I mentioned, there may be common properties. It doesn't seem you 
> looked, so I did:
> 
> - spi-rx-delay-us  - (optional) Microsecond delay after a read transfer.
> - spi-tx-delay-us  - (optional) Microsecond delay after a write transfer.
> 
> Seems to me setting one or both of these should work for you.
>

Yes, good catch, my fault I didn't see those.
But they are not exactly what I mean and need. I don't need delay after
each read or write transfer. What is needed is a guaranteed time
between transfers.

So, if the next transaction doesn't come withing the next X ms (or us),
we don't waste time on inserting a delays after this transaction at all.
Following the description and always inserting a delay must work well
for short microseconds-long delays. For longer milliseconds-long delays
a different strategy of checking the time when the previous transaction
was and only delaying if it was not too long ago is better.

Thus, I won't be able to re-use these properties anyways based on their
current description in bindings/spi/spi-bus.txt.

> > +- sleep-delay-ms: Time after the last SPI activity, after which the chip
> > +  may go to sleep.
> > +- wake-start-delay-ms: Time after initiating wake up before the chip is
> > +  ready to accept commands over SPI.
> 
> I also asked why these 2 can't be hard-coded in the driver?
>

Sorry, I just updated this patch description in v2 to indicate why they are not
hard-coded, but didn't answer explicitly. As the firmware changes, a different
revision of it can have a different time before it sleeps in its configuration,
or the time it takes it to startup may be different. Thus, there's a way to
set it here w/o changing the driver.

Andrey

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-20 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-15  2:20 [PATCH 0/2] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  2:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50 Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  2:20   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  4:05   ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-15 17:31     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15 17:31       ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15 18:28       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-15 18:28         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-07-17 13:28   ` Rob Herring
2016-07-17 13:28     ` Rob Herring
2016-07-15  2:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  2:20   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  3:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-15  3:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-15  3:44     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  3:44       ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-19 12:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-07-19 12:55         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-07-20  0:24         ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  0:24           ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20 17:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-20 17:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-21 18:10             ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-21 18:10               ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-21 21:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-21 21:00                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-15  2:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Peter Huewe
2016-07-15  2:28   ` Peter Huewe
2016-07-15  2:50   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15  3:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-15  3:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-15 17:15       ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-15 17:15         ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-19 12:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-07-20  3:41 ` [PATCH v2 " Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  3:41   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  3:41   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50 Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  3:41     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20 19:03     ` Rob Herring
2016-07-20 19:49       ` Andrey Pronin [this message]
2016-07-20 19:49         ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20 19:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-20 19:54           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-27 21:02           ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-27 21:02             ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-21 21:03         ` Rob Herring
2016-07-21 21:03           ` Rob Herring
2016-07-27 21:00           ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-27 21:00             ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  3:41   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Andrey Pronin
2016-07-20  3:41     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-25 17:09   ` Aw: [PATCH v2 0/2] " Peter Huewe
2016-07-25 17:09     ` Peter Huewe
2016-07-27 21:12     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25 ` [PATCH v3 " Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50 Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28  4:25     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-28 23:01     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-07-28 23:17       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-28 23:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-29  3:01         ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  3:01           ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  1:55 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  1:55   ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  1:55   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] tpm: devicetree: document properties for cr50 Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  1:55     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29 17:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-29 17:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-07-29 21:42       ` Rob Herring
2016-07-29 21:42         ` Rob Herring
2016-08-09 10:08     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-08-09 10:08       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-07-29  1:55   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] tpm: add driver for cr50 on SPI Andrey Pronin
2016-07-29  1:55     ` Andrey Pronin
2016-08-09 10:20     ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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