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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kernel-team@fb.com, axboe@fb.com, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 13/15] blk-throttle: add a mechanism to estimate IO latency
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:36:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161129223607.GB17732@htj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161129183044.GB36738@shli-mbp.local>

Hello,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:30:44AM -0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > As discussed separately, it might make more sense to just use the avg
> > of the closest bucket instead of trying to line-fit the buckets, but
> > it's an implementation detail and whatever which works is fine.
> 
> that is still like a line fit. Don't think there is big difference.

Yeah, just wondering whether that'd be simpler.

> > > Hard disk is completely different. Latency depends on spindle seek
> > > instead of request size. So this latency target feature is for SSD only.
> > 
> > I'm not sure about this.  While a disk's latency profile is way higher
> > and more erratic than SSDs, that doesn't make latency target useless.
> > Sure, it'll be more crude but there's a significant difference between
> > a cgroup having <= 20ms overall latency and experiencing multi-sec
> > latency.
> 
> Sure, latency target is useful for hardisk too. But we need a different
> stragety. For hard disk, the latency highly depends on seek. Probably we can
> make the latency target the same for all request size. Not sure if average
> latency makes sense. Need more tests with hard disk. I'd like to forcus on SSD
> in current stage.

Sure, it's fine to focus on SSDs for now but with either line fitting
or bucketed avg, it should be fine, right?  The slope of the line
would be way lower and the deviation would be higher but that doesn't
really get in the way here.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 22:22 [PATCH V4 00/15] blk-throttle: add .high limit Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 01/15] blk-throttle: prepare support multiple limits Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 02/15] blk-throttle: add .high interface Shaohua Li
2016-11-22 20:02   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-22 23:08     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-23 21:11       ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 03/15] blk-throttle: configure bps/iops limit for cgroup in high limit Shaohua Li
2016-11-22 20:16   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-22 23:11     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 04/15] blk-throttle: add upgrade logic for LIMIT_HIGH state Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 05/15] blk-throttle: add downgrade logic Shaohua Li
2016-11-22 21:21   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-22 21:42     ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-22 23:38       ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 06/15] blk-throttle: make sure expire time isn't too big Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 07/15] blk-throttle: make throtl_slice tunable Shaohua Li
2016-11-22 21:27   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-22 23:18     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-23 21:17       ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 08/15] blk-throttle: detect completed idle cgroup Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 09/15] blk-throttle: make bandwidth change smooth Shaohua Li
2016-11-23 21:23   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-24  0:59     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 10/15] blk-throttle: add a simple idle detection Shaohua Li
2016-11-23 21:46   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-24  1:15     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-28 22:21       ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-28 23:10         ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-29 17:08           ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 11/15] blk-throttle: add interface to configure think time threshold Shaohua Li
2016-11-23 21:32   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-24  1:06     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-28 22:08       ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-28 22:14         ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 12/15] blk-throttle: ignore idle cgroup limit Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 13/15] blk-throttle: add a mechanism to estimate IO latency Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 23:40   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-15  3:57   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-29 17:24   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 18:30     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-29 22:36       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 14/15] blk-throttle: add interface for per-cgroup target latency Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:22 ` [PATCH V4 15/15] blk-throttle: add latency target support Shaohua Li
2016-11-29 17:31   ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 18:14     ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-29 22:54       ` Tejun Heo
2016-11-29 23:39         ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-14 22:46 ` [PATCH V4 00/15] blk-throttle: add .high limit Bart Van Assche
2016-11-15  0:05   ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-15  0:41     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-11-15  0:49       ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-15  1:18         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-11-15  1:28           ` Shaohua Li
2016-11-15 19:53             ` Bart Van Assche
2016-11-15 21:31               ` Shaohua Li

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