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From: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
To: <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"KY Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Vitaly Kuznetsov" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Denis V . Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	"Haiyang Zhang" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"devel@linuxdriverproject.org" <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/15] hyperv: move VMBus connection ids to uapi
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:58:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170109085826.GC2128@rkaganb.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A0B941A0-5609-42CF-BF82-3DE5BD215EC9@zytor.com>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 12:40:48AM -0800, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
> On January 9, 2017 12:32:23 AM PST, Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 09:19:57AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 28/12/2016 18:09, Roman Kagan wrote:
> >> > Am I correct assuming that QEMU is currently the only user of
> >> > arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/hyperv.h?
> >> > 
> >> > Then I think we're fine withdrawing it from uapi as a whole and
> >letting
> >> > QEMU pull it in through its header-harvesting scripts (as does now
> >> > anyway).  This would lift all licensing and longterm API stability
> >> > expectations.
> >> 
> >> Actually, QEMU's header-harvesting scripts use uapi/ headers
> >> exclusively, since they are built on "make headers_install".
> >> 
> >> The extra cleanups that QEMU does on top are to allow compilation of
> >the
> >> headers on non-Linux machines.  They don't really do much more than
> >> changing Linux (linux/types.h) integer types to the C99 (stdint.h)
> >> equivalents.
> >
> >Ouch, I stand corrected.
> >
> >So what should we do with it then?  I'm sorta lost...
> >
> >We certainly can give it up and live with a private copy of the
> >definitions in the QEMU tree but that doesn't sound optimal in any
> >sense.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Roman.
> 
> Why do that through header mangling rather than typedef?

Sorry for not being clear, I actually asked what to do with the Hyper-V
and VMBus protocol definitions.

The typedef vs mangling is a different matter; I guess mangling was
chosen to avoid conflicts with system-provided definitions on non-Linux
systems, but I think Paolo can tell more.

Roman.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
To: <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Haiyang Zhang" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devel@linuxdriverproject.org" <devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Denis V . Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/15] hyperv: move VMBus connection ids to uapi
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 11:58:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170109085826.GC2128@rkaganb.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A0B941A0-5609-42CF-BF82-3DE5BD215EC9@zytor.com>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 12:40:48AM -0800, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
> On January 9, 2017 12:32:23 AM PST, Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 09:19:57AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 28/12/2016 18:09, Roman Kagan wrote:
> >> > Am I correct assuming that QEMU is currently the only user of
> >> > arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/hyperv.h?
> >> > 
> >> > Then I think we're fine withdrawing it from uapi as a whole and
> >letting
> >> > QEMU pull it in through its header-harvesting scripts (as does now
> >> > anyway).  This would lift all licensing and longterm API stability
> >> > expectations.
> >> 
> >> Actually, QEMU's header-harvesting scripts use uapi/ headers
> >> exclusively, since they are built on "make headers_install".
> >> 
> >> The extra cleanups that QEMU does on top are to allow compilation of
> >the
> >> headers on non-Linux machines.  They don't really do much more than
> >> changing Linux (linux/types.h) integer types to the C99 (stdint.h)
> >> equivalents.
> >
> >Ouch, I stand corrected.
> >
> >So what should we do with it then?  I'm sorta lost...
> >
> >We certainly can give it up and live with a private copy of the
> >definitions in the QEMU tree but that doesn't sound optimal in any
> >sense.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Roman.
> 
> Why do that through header mangling rather than typedef?

Sorry for not being clear, I actually asked what to do with the Hyper-V
and VMBus protocol definitions.

The typedef vs mangling is a different matter; I guess mangling was
chosen to avoid conflicts with system-provided definitions on non-Linux
systems, but I think Paolo can tell more.

Roman.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-09  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-20 15:55 [PATCH 00/15] hyperv: more stuff to uapi + cleanup Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 01/15] hyperv: consolidate TSC ref page definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 20:57   ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-21  6:25     ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21  6:25       ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 02/15] hyperv: uapi-fy synic event flags definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 17:24   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-20 17:24     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21  6:33     ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21  6:33       ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 10:58   ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-21 18:58   ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-21 18:58     ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 03/15] hyperv: use standard bitops Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 12:00   ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-21 13:23     ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-22 12:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-21 19:08   ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-21 19:08     ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 04/15] hyperv: define VMBus message type Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 05/15] hyperv: GFP_ATOMIC -> GFP_KERNEL Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 06/15] hyperv: avoid unnecessary vmalloc Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 19:19   ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 07/15] hyperv: dedup cpuid definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 08/15] hyperv: dedup crash msr related definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 09/15] hyperv: unify Hyper-V msr definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 10/15] hyperv: uapi-fy PostMessage and SignalEvent hypercall structures Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 19:27   ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 11/15] hyperv: uapi-fy monitored notification structures Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:55 ` [PATCH 12/15] hyperv: move VMBus connection ids to uapi Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 17:25   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21  6:29     ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21  6:29       ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 12:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 12:59         ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 12:59           ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 14:26           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 14:39             ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 14:39               ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 15:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-21 15:43               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 15:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 17:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-21 17:50                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21 17:50                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21 17:53                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-21 17:53                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-21 17:58                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 17:58                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-21 18:02                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21 18:02                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-21 19:54                       ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-21 19:54                         ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-28 17:09                         ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-28 17:09                           ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-29 18:29                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-12-29 18:29                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-02  8:19                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-09  8:32                             ` Roman Kagan
2017-01-09  8:40                               ` hpa
2017-01-09  8:58                                 ` Roman Kagan [this message]
2017-01-09  8:58                                   ` Roman Kagan
2017-01-09  9:02                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-02 19:39                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-02 19:39                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-03  9:32                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-12-20 15:56 ` [PATCH 13/15] hyperv: move function close to its only callsite Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:56 ` [PATCH 14/15] hyperv_vmbus: drop unused definitions Roman Kagan
2016-12-20 15:56 ` [PATCH 15/15] hyperv: redefine hv_message without bitfields Roman Kagan
2016-12-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 00/15] hyperv: more stuff to uapi + cleanup KY Srinivasan
2016-12-28 16:57   ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-28 16:57     ` Roman Kagan
2016-12-30 19:45     ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-30 19:45       ` KY Srinivasan

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