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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@aosc.io>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	linux-sunxi <linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:31:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329123118.yvwnqpgtamc5pjqf@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170328100519.145DE203419@relay.mailchannels.net>

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On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:05:08PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
> 
> 2017年3月27日 上午5:11于 Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>写道:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:34:45AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: 
> > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote: 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:56:26AM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote: 
> > > >> The Allwinner Timings Controller has two, mutually exclusive, channels. 
> > > >> When the binding has been introduced, it was assumed that there would be 
> > > >> only a single user per channel in the system. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> While this is likely for the channel 0 which only connects to LCD displays, 
> > > >> it turns out that the channel 1 can be connected to multiple controllers in 
> > > >> the SoC (HDMI and TV encoders for example). And while the simultaneous use 
> > > >> of HDMI and TV outputs cannot be achieved, switching from one to the other 
> > > >> at runtime definitely sounds plausible. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Add an extra property, allwinner,tcon-channel, to specify for a given 
> > > >> endpoint which TCON channel it is connected to, while falling back to the 
> > > >> previous mechanism if that property is missing. 
> > > > 
> > > > I think perhaps TCON channels should have been ports rather than 
> > > > endpoints. The fact that the channels are mutually exclusive can be 
> > > > handled in the driver and doesn't really matter in the binding. How 
> > > > painful would it be to rework things to move TCON channel 1 from port 0, 
> > > > endpoint 1 to port 1? 
> > > 
> > > Having a separate output port for channel 1 was one option we discussed. 
> > > However it wouldn't work well with the kernel's of_graph based crtc 
> > > detection (drm_of_find_possible_crtcs / drm_of_find_possible_crtcs), 
> > > which has the crtcs bound via the output port. As the logic is used 
> > > by multiple drivers, I'm not sure it's easy to rework or test. 
> >
> > Can't we use a different logic than drm_of_find_possible_crtcs to fill 
> > the same role? 
> >
> > > Also, we still have to support old device trees using channel 1 from 
> > > output port 0 endpoint 1. This is the TV encoder on sun5i (A10s/A13/R8). 
> 
> And from A83T on we will face channel-1 only TCONs., which do not
> have channel 0 at all in hardware.

Yes, but those patches have not been merged yet, so we don't have to
care about the backward compatibility.

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Icenowy Zheng <icenowy-h8G6r0blFSE@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Mike Turquette
	<mturquette-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied-cv59FeDIM0c@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Daniel Vetter
	<daniel.vetter-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-sunxi <linux-sunxi-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	dri-devel
	<dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:31:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329123118.yvwnqpgtamc5pjqf@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170328100519.145DE203419-Y9/x5g2N/Tt0ykcd9G8QkxTxI0vvWBSX@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:05:08PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
> 
> 2017年3月27日 上午5:11于 Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>写道:
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:34:45AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: 
> > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote: 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:56:26AM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote: 
> > > >> The Allwinner Timings Controller has two, mutually exclusive, channels. 
> > > >> When the binding has been introduced, it was assumed that there would be 
> > > >> only a single user per channel in the system. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> While this is likely for the channel 0 which only connects to LCD displays, 
> > > >> it turns out that the channel 1 can be connected to multiple controllers in 
> > > >> the SoC (HDMI and TV encoders for example). And while the simultaneous use 
> > > >> of HDMI and TV outputs cannot be achieved, switching from one to the other 
> > > >> at runtime definitely sounds plausible. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Add an extra property, allwinner,tcon-channel, to specify for a given 
> > > >> endpoint which TCON channel it is connected to, while falling back to the 
> > > >> previous mechanism if that property is missing. 
> > > > 
> > > > I think perhaps TCON channels should have been ports rather than 
> > > > endpoints. The fact that the channels are mutually exclusive can be 
> > > > handled in the driver and doesn't really matter in the binding. How 
> > > > painful would it be to rework things to move TCON channel 1 from port 0, 
> > > > endpoint 1 to port 1? 
> > > 
> > > Having a separate output port for channel 1 was one option we discussed. 
> > > However it wouldn't work well with the kernel's of_graph based crtc 
> > > detection (drm_of_find_possible_crtcs / drm_of_find_possible_crtcs), 
> > > which has the crtcs bound via the output port. As the logic is used 
> > > by multiple drivers, I'm not sure it's easy to rework or test. 
> >
> > Can't we use a different logic than drm_of_find_possible_crtcs to fill 
> > the same role? 
> >
> > > Also, we still have to support old device trees using channel 1 from 
> > > output port 0 endpoint 1. This is the TV encoder on sun5i (A10s/A13/R8). 
> 
> And from A83T on we will face channel-1 only TCONs., which do not
> have channel 0 at all in hardware.

Yes, but those patches have not been merged yet, so we don't have to
care about the backward compatibility.

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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From: maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com (Maxime Ripard)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:31:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329123118.yvwnqpgtamc5pjqf@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170328100519.145DE203419@relay.mailchannels.net>

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:05:08PM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
> 
> 2017?3?27? ??5:11? Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>???
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:34:45AM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: 
> > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote: 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:56:26AM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote: 
> > > >> The Allwinner Timings Controller has two, mutually exclusive, channels. 
> > > >> When the binding has been introduced, it was assumed that there would be 
> > > >> only a single user per channel in the system. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> While this is likely for the channel 0 which only connects to LCD displays, 
> > > >> it turns out that the channel 1 can be connected to multiple controllers in 
> > > >> the SoC (HDMI and TV encoders for example). And while the simultaneous use 
> > > >> of HDMI and TV outputs cannot be achieved, switching from one to the other 
> > > >> at runtime definitely sounds plausible. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Add an extra property, allwinner,tcon-channel, to specify for a given 
> > > >> endpoint which TCON channel it is connected to, while falling back to the 
> > > >> previous mechanism if that property is missing. 
> > > > 
> > > > I think perhaps TCON channels should have been ports rather than 
> > > > endpoints. The fact that the channels are mutually exclusive can be 
> > > > handled in the driver and doesn't really matter in the binding. How 
> > > > painful would it be to rework things to move TCON channel 1 from port 0, 
> > > > endpoint 1 to port 1? 
> > > 
> > > Having a separate output port for channel 1 was one option we discussed. 
> > > However it wouldn't work well with the kernel's of_graph based crtc 
> > > detection (drm_of_find_possible_crtcs / drm_of_find_possible_crtcs), 
> > > which has the crtcs bound via the output port. As the logic is used 
> > > by multiple drivers, I'm not sure it's easy to rework or test. 
> >
> > Can't we use a different logic than drm_of_find_possible_crtcs to fill 
> > the same role? 
> >
> > > Also, we still have to support old device trees using channel 1 from 
> > > output port 0 endpoint 1. This is the TV encoder on sun5i (A10s/A13/R8). 
> 
> And from A83T on we will face channel-1 only TCONs., which do not
> have channel 0 at all in hardware.

Yes, but those patches have not been merged yet, so we don't have to
care about the backward compatibility.

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-28 10:05 [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property Icenowy Zheng
2017-03-28 10:05 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-03-29 12:31 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2017-03-29 12:31   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-03-29 12:31   ` Maxime Ripard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-28 10:05 Icenowy Zheng
2017-03-07  8:56 [PATCH 0/15] drm: sun4i: Add support for the HDMI controller Maxime Ripard
2017-03-07  8:56 ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property Maxime Ripard
2017-03-07  8:56   ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner, tcon-channel property Maxime Ripard
2017-03-07  8:56   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-03-08  3:38   ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-08  3:38     ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner, tcon-channel property Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-08  3:38     ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-15 17:37   ` Rob Herring
2017-03-15 17:37     ` Rob Herring
2017-03-15 17:37     ` Rob Herring
2017-03-17  3:34     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-17  3:34       ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner, tcon-channel property Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-17  3:34       ` [PATCH 7/15] dt-bindings: display: sun4i: Add allwinner,tcon-channel property Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-03-26 21:11       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-03-26 21:11         ` Maxime Ripard
2017-03-26 21:11         ` Maxime Ripard

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