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From: Peter Xu <peterx-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: tianyu.lan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	kevin.tian-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	jasowang-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	jacob.jun.pan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 12/20] Memory: Add func to fire pasidt_bind notifier
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:14:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170427061427.GA1542@pxdev.xzpeter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170427023719.GA14925@sky-dev>

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:37:19AM +0800, Liu, Yi L wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:50:16PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 26/04/2017 12:06, Liu, Yi L wrote:
> > > +void memory_region_notify_iommu_svm_bind(MemoryRegion *mr,
> > > +                                         void *data)
> > > +{
> > > +    IOMMUNotifier *iommu_notifier;
> > > +    IOMMUNotifierFlag request_flags;
> > > +
> > > +    assert(memory_region_is_iommu(mr));
> > > +
> > > +    /*TODO: support other bind requests with smaller gran,
> > > +     * e.g. bind signle pasid entry
> > > +     */
> > > +    request_flags = IOMMU_NOTIFIER_SVM_PASIDT_BIND;
> > > +
> > > +    QLIST_FOREACH(iommu_notifier, &mr->iommu_notify, node) {
> > > +        if (iommu_notifier->notifier_flags & request_flags) {
> > > +            iommu_notifier->notify(iommu_notifier, data);
> > > +            break;
> > > +        }
> > > +    }
> > 
> > Peter,
> > 
> > should this reuse ->notify, or should it be different function pointer
> > in IOMMUNotifier?
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
> Thx for your review.
> 
> I think it should be “->notify” here. In this patchset, the new notifier
> is registered with the existing notifier registration API. So the all the
> notifiers are in the mr->iommu_notify list. And notifiers are labeled
> by notify flag, so it is able to differentiate the IOMMUNotifier nodes.
> When the flag meets, trigger it by “->notify”. The diagram below shows
> my understanding , wish it helps to make me understood.
> 
> VFIOContainer
>        |
>        giommu_list(VFIOGuestIOMMU)
>                 \
>                  VFIOGuestIOMMU1 ->   VFIOGuestIOMMU2 -> VFIOGuestIOMMU3 ...
>                     |                     |                 |
> mr->iommu_notify: IOMMUNotifier   ->    IOMMUNotifier  ->  IOMMUNotifier
>                   (Flag:MAP/UNMAP)     (Flag:SVM bind)  (Flag:tlb invalidate)
> 
> 
> Actually, compared with the MAP/UNMAP notifier, the newly added notifier has
> no start/end check, and there may be other types of bind notfier flag in
> future, so I added a separate fire func for SVM bind notifier.

I agree with Paolo that this interface might not be the suitable place
for the SVM notifiers (just like what I worried about in previous
discussions).

The biggest problem is that, if you see current notifier mechanism,
it's per-memory-region. However iiuc your messages should be
per-iommu, or say, per translation unit. While, for each iommu, there
can be more than one memory regions (ppc can be an example). When
there are more than one MRs binded to the same iommu unit, which
memory region should you register to? Any one of them, or all?

So my conclusion is, it just has nothing to do with memory regions...

Instead of a different function pointer in IOMMUNotifer, IMHO we can
even move a step further, to isolate IOTLB notifications (targeted at
memory regions and with start/end ranges) out of SVM/other
notifications, since they are different in general. So we basically
need two notification mechanism:

- one for memory regions, currently what I can see is IOTLB
  notifications

- one for translation units, currently I see all the rest of
  notifications needed in virt-svm in this category

Maybe some RFC patches would be good to show what I mean... I'll see
whether I can prepare some.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu
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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	tianyu.lan@intel.com, kevin.tian@intel.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com,
	ashok.raj@intel.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, jacob.jun.pan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 12/20] Memory: Add func to fire pasidt_bind notifier
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:14:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170427061427.GA1542@pxdev.xzpeter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170427023719.GA14925@sky-dev>

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:37:19AM +0800, Liu, Yi L wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:50:16PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 26/04/2017 12:06, Liu, Yi L wrote:
> > > +void memory_region_notify_iommu_svm_bind(MemoryRegion *mr,
> > > +                                         void *data)
> > > +{
> > > +    IOMMUNotifier *iommu_notifier;
> > > +    IOMMUNotifierFlag request_flags;
> > > +
> > > +    assert(memory_region_is_iommu(mr));
> > > +
> > > +    /*TODO: support other bind requests with smaller gran,
> > > +     * e.g. bind signle pasid entry
> > > +     */
> > > +    request_flags = IOMMU_NOTIFIER_SVM_PASIDT_BIND;
> > > +
> > > +    QLIST_FOREACH(iommu_notifier, &mr->iommu_notify, node) {
> > > +        if (iommu_notifier->notifier_flags & request_flags) {
> > > +            iommu_notifier->notify(iommu_notifier, data);
> > > +            break;
> > > +        }
> > > +    }
> > 
> > Peter,
> > 
> > should this reuse ->notify, or should it be different function pointer
> > in IOMMUNotifier?
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
> Thx for your review.
> 
> I think it should be “->notify” here. In this patchset, the new notifier
> is registered with the existing notifier registration API. So the all the
> notifiers are in the mr->iommu_notify list. And notifiers are labeled
> by notify flag, so it is able to differentiate the IOMMUNotifier nodes.
> When the flag meets, trigger it by “->notify”. The diagram below shows
> my understanding , wish it helps to make me understood.
> 
> VFIOContainer
>        |
>        giommu_list(VFIOGuestIOMMU)
>                 \
>                  VFIOGuestIOMMU1 ->   VFIOGuestIOMMU2 -> VFIOGuestIOMMU3 ...
>                     |                     |                 |
> mr->iommu_notify: IOMMUNotifier   ->    IOMMUNotifier  ->  IOMMUNotifier
>                   (Flag:MAP/UNMAP)     (Flag:SVM bind)  (Flag:tlb invalidate)
> 
> 
> Actually, compared with the MAP/UNMAP notifier, the newly added notifier has
> no start/end check, and there may be other types of bind notfier flag in
> future, so I added a separate fire func for SVM bind notifier.

I agree with Paolo that this interface might not be the suitable place
for the SVM notifiers (just like what I worried about in previous
discussions).

The biggest problem is that, if you see current notifier mechanism,
it's per-memory-region. However iiuc your messages should be
per-iommu, or say, per translation unit. While, for each iommu, there
can be more than one memory regions (ppc can be an example). When
there are more than one MRs binded to the same iommu unit, which
memory region should you register to? Any one of them, or all?

So my conclusion is, it just has nothing to do with memory regions...

Instead of a different function pointer in IOMMUNotifer, IMHO we can
even move a step further, to isolate IOTLB notifications (targeted at
memory regions and with start/end ranges) out of SVM/other
notifications, since they are different in general. So we basically
need two notification mechanism:

- one for memory regions, currently what I can see is IOTLB
  notifications

- one for translation units, currently I see all the rest of
  notifications needed in virt-svm in this category

Maybe some RFC patches would be good to show what I mean... I'll see
whether I can prepare some.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-27  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-26 10:06 [RFC PATCH 00/20] Qemu: Extend intel_iommu emulator to support Shared Virtual Memory Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 01/20] intel_iommu: add "ecs" option Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 02/20] intel_iommu: exposed extended-context mode to guest Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]   ` <1493201210-14357-3-git-send-email-yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27 10:32     ` Peter Xu
2017-04-27 10:32       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2017-04-28  6:00       ` Lan Tianyu
2017-04-28  6:00         ` [Qemu-devel] " Lan Tianyu
     [not found]         ` <a7cd779f-2cd6-3a3f-7e73-e79a49c48961-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-28  9:56           ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-28  9:56             ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]       ` <20170427103221.GD1542-QJIicYCqamqhazCxEpVPD9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-28  9:55         ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-28  9:55           ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 03/20] intel_iommu: add "svm" option Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]   ` <1493201210-14357-4-git-send-email-yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27 10:53     ` Peter Xu
2017-04-27 10:53       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
     [not found]       ` <20170427105317.GE1542-QJIicYCqamqhazCxEpVPD9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 20:28         ` Alex Williamson
2017-05-04 20:28           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
     [not found]           ` <20170504142853.1537028c-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-04 20:37             ` Raj, Ashok
2017-05-04 20:37               ` [Qemu-devel] " Raj, Ashok
2017-05-08 10:38         ` Liu, Yi L
2017-05-08 10:38           ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]           ` <A2975661238FB949B60364EF0F2C25743906890D-E2R4CRU6q/6iAffOGbnezLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08 11:20             ` Peter Xu
2017-05-08 11:20               ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
     [not found]               ` <20170508112034.GE2820-QJIicYCqamqhazCxEpVPD9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-08  8:15                 ` Liu, Yi L
2017-05-08  8:15                   ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 04/20] Memory: modify parameter in IOMMUNotifier func Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 05/20] VFIO: add new IOCTL for svm bind tasks Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 06/20] VFIO: add new notifier for binding PASID table Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 07/20] VFIO: check notifier flag in region_del() Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 08/20] Memory: add notifier flag check in memory_replay() Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 09/20] Memory: introduce iommu_ops->record_device Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]   ` <1493201210-14357-10-git-send-email-yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-28  6:46     ` Lan Tianyu
2017-04-28  6:46       ` [Qemu-devel] " Lan Tianyu
2017-05-19  5:23       ` Liu, Yi L
2017-05-19  5:23         ` Liu, Yi L
2017-05-19  5:23         ` Liu, Yi L
2017-05-19  9:07         ` Tian, Kevin
2017-05-19  9:07           ` Tian, Kevin
2017-05-19  9:35           ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 10/20] VFIO: notify vIOMMU emulator when device is assigned Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 11/20] intel_iommu: provide iommu_ops->record_device Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 12/20] Memory: Add func to fire pasidt_bind notifier Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]   ` <1493201210-14357-13-git-send-email-yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-26 13:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-26 13:50       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-27  2:37       ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-27  6:14         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2017-04-27  6:14           ` Peter Xu
2017-04-27 10:09           ` Peter Xu
     [not found]           ` <20170427061427.GA1542-QJIicYCqamqhazCxEpVPD9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-27 10:25             ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-27 10:25               ` Liu, Yi L
2017-04-27 10:51               ` Peter Xu
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 13/20] IOMMU: add pasid_table_info for guest pasid table Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 14/20] intel_iommu: add FOR_EACH_ASSIGN_DEVICE macro Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
     [not found]   ` <1493201210-14357-15-git-send-email-yi.l.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-28  7:33     ` Lan Tianyu
2017-04-28  7:33       ` [Qemu-devel] " Lan Tianyu
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 15/20] intel_iommu: link whole guest pasid table to host Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 16/20] VFIO: Add notifier for propagating IOMMU TLB invalidate Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 17/20] Memory: Add func to fire TLB invalidate notifier Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 18/20] intel_iommu: propagate Extended-IOTLB invalidate to host Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 19/20] intel_iommu: propagate PASID-Cache " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH 20/20] intel_iommu: propagate Ext-Device-TLB " Liu, Yi L
2017-04-26 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liu, Yi L

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