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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] arm64: Use the physical counter when available for read_cycles
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:43:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170725094308.GC23359@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170717142718.13853-3-cdall@linaro.org>

Hi Christoffer,

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:27:01PM +0200, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Currently get_cycles() is hardwired to arch_counter_get_cntvct() on
> arm64, but as we move to using the physical timer for the in-kernel
> time-keeping, we need to make that more flexible.
> 
> First, we need to make sure the physical counter can be read on equal
> terms to the virtual counter, which includes adding physical counter
> read functions for timers that require errata.
> 
> Second, we need to make a choice between reading the physical vs virtual
> counter, depending on which timer is used for time keeping in the kernel
> otherwise.  We can do this using a static key to avoid a performance
> penalty during runtime when reading the counter.
> 
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/arch_timer.h  | 18 ++++++++++++------
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/timex.h       |  2 +-
>  drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  3 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

[...]

> @@ -886,10 +912,12 @@ static void __init arch_counter_register(unsigned type)
>  
>  	/* Register the CP15 based counter if we have one */
>  	if (type & ARCH_TIMER_TYPE_CP15) {
> -		if (arch_timer_uses_ppi == ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI)
> +		if (arch_timer_uses_ppi == ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI) {
>  			arch_timer_read_counter = arch_counter_get_cntvct;
> -		else
> +		} else {
>  			arch_timer_read_counter = arch_counter_get_cntpct;
> +			static_branch_enable(&arch_timer_phys_counter_available);
> +		}

I'm a bit worried about this change, although I can't put my finger on
exactly the problematic scenario. My concern is that if we have a system
where the host kernel is entered at NS-EL1 (because, e.g. EL2 is used for
something else or the bootloader just didn't load us there) then the booting
protocol doesn't mandate a zero-initialised CNTVOFF value. If we can
subsequently end up using the physical counter in the kernel and the virtual
counter in userspace, the vDSO will get confused because the datapage values
will not correspond to the values it actually ends up reading. There's also
the likelihood that existing EL2 init code simply isn't setting up
CNTHCTL_EL2 and CNTVOFF correctly, so we probably need a way to force
virtual counter on the cmdline.

In practice it looks like we always end up with ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI out of
arch_timer_select_ppi, but that's not guaranteed and I haven't thought at
all about the 32-bit case, which has other quirks/complexities.

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] arm64: Use the physical counter when available for read_cycles
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:43:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170725094308.GC23359@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170717142718.13853-3-cdall@linaro.org>

Hi Christoffer,

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:27:01PM +0200, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Currently get_cycles() is hardwired to arch_counter_get_cntvct() on
> arm64, but as we move to using the physical timer for the in-kernel
> time-keeping, we need to make that more flexible.
> 
> First, we need to make sure the physical counter can be read on equal
> terms to the virtual counter, which includes adding physical counter
> read functions for timers that require errata.
> 
> Second, we need to make a choice between reading the physical vs virtual
> counter, depending on which timer is used for time keeping in the kernel
> otherwise.  We can do this using a static key to avoid a performance
> penalty during runtime when reading the counter.
> 
> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
> ---
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/arch_timer.h  | 18 ++++++++++++------
>  arch/arm64/include/asm/timex.h       |  2 +-
>  drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  3 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

[...]

> @@ -886,10 +912,12 @@ static void __init arch_counter_register(unsigned type)
>  
>  	/* Register the CP15 based counter if we have one */
>  	if (type & ARCH_TIMER_TYPE_CP15) {
> -		if (arch_timer_uses_ppi == ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI)
> +		if (arch_timer_uses_ppi == ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI) {
>  			arch_timer_read_counter = arch_counter_get_cntvct;
> -		else
> +		} else {
>  			arch_timer_read_counter = arch_counter_get_cntpct;
> +			static_branch_enable(&arch_timer_phys_counter_available);
> +		}

I'm a bit worried about this change, although I can't put my finger on
exactly the problematic scenario. My concern is that if we have a system
where the host kernel is entered at NS-EL1 (because, e.g. EL2 is used for
something else or the bootloader just didn't load us there) then the booting
protocol doesn't mandate a zero-initialised CNTVOFF value. If we can
subsequently end up using the physical counter in the kernel and the virtual
counter in userspace, the vDSO will get confused because the datapage values
will not correspond to the values it actually ends up reading. There's also
the likelihood that existing EL2 init code simply isn't setting up
CNTHCTL_EL2 and CNTVOFF correctly, so we probably need a way to force
virtual counter on the cmdline.

In practice it looks like we always end up with ARCH_TIMER_VIRT_PPI out of
arch_timer_select_ppi, but that's not guaranteed and I haven't thought at
all about the 32-bit case, which has other quirks/complexities.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-25  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-17 14:26 [RFC PATCH v2 00/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Optimize arch timer register handling Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:26 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/19] arm64: Use physical counter for in-kernel reads Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/19] arm64: Use the physical counter when available for read_cycles Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-25  9:43   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-07-25  9:43     ` Will Deacon
2017-07-25 14:36     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-25 14:36       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-26 17:17       ` Will Deacon
2017-07-26 17:17         ` Will Deacon
2017-07-27  7:14         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-27  7:14           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Guard kvm_vgic_map_is_active against !vgic_initialized Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Support calling vgic_update_irq_pending from irq context Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Check that system supports split eoi/deactivate Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 11:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 11:35     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 12:26     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 12:26       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 12:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 12:37         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 12:54         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 12:54           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Make timer_arm and timer_disarm helpers more generic Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 14:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 14:10     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 14:57     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 14:57       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 15:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 15:41         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Rename soft timer to bg_timer Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Use separate timer for phys timer emulation Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Move timer/vgic flush/sync under disabled irq Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Move timer save/restore out of the hyp code Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/19] genirq: Document vcpu_info usage for per-CPU interrupts Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 16:15   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 16:15     ` Marc Zyngier
2017-08-01 16:57     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-08-01 16:57       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Set VCPU affinity for virt timer irq Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Avoid timer save/restore in vcpu entry/exit Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Support EL1 phys timer register access in set/get reg Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Use kvm_arm_timer_set/get_reg for guest register traps Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Move phys_timer_emulate function Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Avoid phys timer emulation in vcpu entry/exit Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Get rid of kvm_timer_flush_hwstate Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/19] KVM: arm/arm64: Rework kvm_timer_should_fire Christoffer Dall
2017-07-17 14:27   ` Christoffer Dall

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