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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net,
	jack@suse.cz, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	hpa@zytor.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, npiggin@gmail.com,
	bsingharora@gmail.com, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:31:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831073121.ptxjsvibekxudzbx@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0add5ad0-fd3d-efb7-f00c-7232dfc768af@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:25:16PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 08/30/2017 03:02 PM, Laurent Dufour wrote:
> > On 30/08/2017 07:58, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:33:50AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>> diff --git a/mm/filemap.c b/mm/filemap.c
> >>> index a497024..08f3042 100644
> >>> --- a/mm/filemap.c
> >>> +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> >>> @@ -1181,6 +1181,18 @@ int __lock_page_killable(struct page *__page)
> >>>  int __lock_page_or_retry(struct page *page, struct mm_struct *mm,
> >>>                          unsigned int flags)
> >>>  {
> >>> +       if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE) {
> >>> +               if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE) {
> >>> +                       int ret;
> >>> +
> >>> +                       ret = __lock_page_killable(page);
> >>> +                       if (ret)
> >>> +                               return 0;
> >>> +               } else
> >>> +                       __lock_page(page);
> >>> +               return 1;
> >>> +       }
> >>> +
> >>>         if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY) {
> >>>                 /*
> >>>                  * CAUTION! In this case, mmap_sem is not released
> >>
> >> Yeah, that looks right.
> > 
> > Hum, I'm wondering if FAULT_FLAG_RETRY_NOWAIT should be forced in the
> > speculative path in that case to match the semantics of
> > __lock_page_or_retry().
> 
> Doing that would force us to have another retry through classic fault
> path wasting all the work done till now through SPF. Hence it may be
> better to just wait, get the lock here and complete the fault. Peterz,
> would you agree ? Or we should do as suggested by Laurent. More over,
> forcing FAULT_FLAG_RETRY_NOWAIT on FAULT_FLAG_SPECULTIVE at this point
> would look like a hack.

Is there ever a situation where SPECULATIVE and NOWAIT are used
together? That seems like something to avoid.

A git-grep seems to suggest gup() can set it, but gup() will not be
doing speculative faults. s390 also sets it, but then again, they don't
have speculative fault support yet and when they do they can avoid
setting them together.

So maybe put in a WARN_ON_ONCE() on having both of them, it is not
something that makes sense to me, but maybe someone sees a rationale for
it?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, mhocko@kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net,
	jack@suse.cz, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au, paulus@samba.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	hpa@zytor.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	haren@linux.vnet.ibm.com, npiggin@gmail.com,
	bsingharora@gmail.com, Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:31:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831073121.ptxjsvibekxudzbx@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0add5ad0-fd3d-efb7-f00c-7232dfc768af@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:25:16PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 08/30/2017 03:02 PM, Laurent Dufour wrote:
> > On 30/08/2017 07:58, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 10:33:50AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>> diff --git a/mm/filemap.c b/mm/filemap.c
> >>> index a497024..08f3042 100644
> >>> --- a/mm/filemap.c
> >>> +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> >>> @@ -1181,6 +1181,18 @@ int __lock_page_killable(struct page *__page)
> >>>  int __lock_page_or_retry(struct page *page, struct mm_struct *mm,
> >>>                          unsigned int flags)
> >>>  {
> >>> +       if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE) {
> >>> +               if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_KILLABLE) {
> >>> +                       int ret;
> >>> +
> >>> +                       ret = __lock_page_killable(page);
> >>> +                       if (ret)
> >>> +                               return 0;
> >>> +               } else
> >>> +                       __lock_page(page);
> >>> +               return 1;
> >>> +       }
> >>> +
> >>>         if (flags & FAULT_FLAG_ALLOW_RETRY) {
> >>>                 /*
> >>>                  * CAUTION! In this case, mmap_sem is not released
> >>
> >> Yeah, that looks right.
> > 
> > Hum, I'm wondering if FAULT_FLAG_RETRY_NOWAIT should be forced in the
> > speculative path in that case to match the semantics of
> > __lock_page_or_retry().
> 
> Doing that would force us to have another retry through classic fault
> path wasting all the work done till now through SPF. Hence it may be
> better to just wait, get the lock here and complete the fault. Peterz,
> would you agree ? Or we should do as suggested by Laurent. More over,
> forcing FAULT_FLAG_RETRY_NOWAIT on FAULT_FLAG_SPECULTIVE at this point
> would look like a hack.

Is there ever a situation where SPECULATIVE and NOWAIT are used
together? That seems like something to avoid.

A git-grep seems to suggest gup() can set it, but gup() will not be
doing speculative faults. s390 also sets it, but then again, they don't
have speculative fault support yet and when they do they can avoid
setting them together.

So maybe put in a WARN_ON_ONCE() on having both of them, it is not
something that makes sense to me, but maybe someone sees a rationale for
it?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-17 22:04 [PATCH v2 00/20] Speculative page faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:04 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] mm: Dont assume page-table invariance during faults Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] mm: Prepare for FAULT_FLAG_SPECULATIVE Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] mm: Introduce pte_spinlock " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] mm: VMA sequence count Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] mm: Protect VMA modifications using " Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] mm: RCU free VMAs Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] mm: Cache some VMA fields in the vm_fault structure Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] mm: Protect SPF handler against anon_vma changes Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] mm/migrate: Pass vm_fault pointer to migrate_misplaced_page() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] mm: Introduce __lru_cache_add_active_or_unevictable Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] mm: Introduce __maybe_mkwrite() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] mm: Introduce __vm_normal_page() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] mm: Introduce __page_add_new_anon_rmap() Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] mm: Provide speculative fault infrastructure Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-20 12:11   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-20 12:11     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-25  8:52     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-25  8:52       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-27  0:18   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-27  0:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-28  9:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-28  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-28 21:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-08-28 21:14         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-08-28 22:35         ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-28 22:35           ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-29  8:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29  8:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29  8:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29  8:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 11:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 11:27             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 21:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-08-29 21:19               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-08-30  6:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30  6:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29  7:59     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29  7:59       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 12:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 12:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 13:18         ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 13:18           ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 13:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 13:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30  5:03             ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  5:03               ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  5:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30  5:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30  9:32                 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-30  9:32                   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-31  6:55                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-31  6:55                     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-31  7:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-08-31  7:31                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30  9:53               ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-30  9:53                 ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-30  3:48         ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  3:48           ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  5:25     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  5:25       ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-30  8:56     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-30  8:56       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] mm: Try spin lock in speculative path Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] mm: Adding speculative page fault failure trace events Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] perf: Add a speculative page fault sw event Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  8:55   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-21  8:55     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-22  1:46     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-22  1:46       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] perf tools: Add support for the SPF perf event Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  8:48   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-21  8:48     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-25  8:53     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-25  8:53       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] x86/mm: Add speculative pagefault handling Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  7:29   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-21  7:29     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-29 14:50     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 14:50       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 14:58       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 14:58         ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] powerpc/mm: Add speculative page fault Laurent Dufour
2017-08-17 22:05   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  6:58   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-21  6:58     ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-29 15:13     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-29 15:13       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  2:26 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] Speculative page faults Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-08-21  2:26   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-08  9:24   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-08  9:24     ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-11  0:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-11  0:45       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-09-11  6:28       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-09-11  6:28         ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-21  6:28 ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-21  6:28   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-08-22  0:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22  0:41     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-25  9:41   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-08-25  9:41     ` Laurent Dufour

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