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From: Sebastian Reichel <sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] dt-bindings: bus: Minimal TI sysc interconnect target module binding
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 22:48:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171001204834.kqc6fgfo7dx6m7rn@earth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171001171406.GL4394-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

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Hi,

On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:14:07AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Sebastian Reichel <sre-GFxCN5SEZAc@public.gmane.org> [171001 06:12]:
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 03:34:05PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > Note that additional properties for sysc capabilities will be added
> > > later on. For now, we can already use this binding for interconnect
> > > target modules that do not have any child device drivers available.
> > > This allows us to idle the unused interconnect target modules during
> > > init without the need for legacy hwmod platform data for doing it.
> > 
> > DT backwards compatibility is about booting an old DT file with a
> > newer kernel. Since old DT file does not contain a "ti,sysc-omap*"
> > node you don't need to add "ti,hwmod = *" support to it. Instead a
> > DT file, that uses ti,hwmod in the device node and does not have a
> > "ti,sysc-omap*" at all should still work.
> 
> Not sure if I parse that right, but I'm assuming you suggest leaving
> out ti,hwmod to start with. Well I considered that, but it causes
> the "waiting for a magical flip issue". So initially we need to use
> both ti,sysc and ti,hwmod until ti,sysc alone has the equal
> functionality. That's because then we can do the following steps:
> 
> 1. We want to add compatible = ti,sysc so we can define the
>    nodes and get the parent-children hierarhcy right. We can
>    already use the parent-child features even with ti,hwmods
>    before we have complete dts based data. We are currently
>    missing that capability without doing device specific parent
>    drivers like we do with drivers/usb/musb/musb_am335x.c. Note
>    that in this step we are moving the ti,hwmod to the parent
>    node
> 
> 2. When ti,sysc can configure things based on dts data alone the
>    same way as the legacy platform data, we can just drop the
>    ti,hwmod property. We also want to be able to test one driver
>    at a time between ti,sysc + ti,hwmod vs ti,sysc only
> 
> 3. Once ti,hwmod properties have been removed from the mainline
>    kernel, we can add a warning about ti,hwmod properties being
>    deprecated
> 
> 4. Then later on, we can also drop the hwmod platform data and
>    continue produce warnings if ti,hwmod is seen

Ok, I misunderstood the reason for keeping/adding "ti,hwmod".
I thought it was only about keeping backwards compatibility, but
it's still required since hwmod is only partially converted to DT
by this patchset.

That basically means, that this patchset breaks DT ABI *now*, since
old DT has no ti,sysc node?

-- Sebastian

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From: sre@kernel.org (Sebastian Reichel)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/7] dt-bindings: bus: Minimal TI sysc interconnect target module binding
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 22:48:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171001204834.kqc6fgfo7dx6m7rn@earth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171001171406.GL4394@atomide.com>

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:14:07AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Sebastian Reichel <sre@ring0.de> [171001 06:12]:
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 03:34:05PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > Note that additional properties for sysc capabilities will be added
> > > later on. For now, we can already use this binding for interconnect
> > > target modules that do not have any child device drivers available.
> > > This allows us to idle the unused interconnect target modules during
> > > init without the need for legacy hwmod platform data for doing it.
> > 
> > DT backwards compatibility is about booting an old DT file with a
> > newer kernel. Since old DT file does not contain a "ti,sysc-omap*"
> > node you don't need to add "ti,hwmod = *" support to it. Instead a
> > DT file, that uses ti,hwmod in the device node and does not have a
> > "ti,sysc-omap*" at all should still work.
> 
> Not sure if I parse that right, but I'm assuming you suggest leaving
> out ti,hwmod to start with. Well I considered that, but it causes
> the "waiting for a magical flip issue". So initially we need to use
> both ti,sysc and ti,hwmod until ti,sysc alone has the equal
> functionality. That's because then we can do the following steps:
> 
> 1. We want to add compatible = ti,sysc so we can define the
>    nodes and get the parent-children hierarhcy right. We can
>    already use the parent-child features even with ti,hwmods
>    before we have complete dts based data. We are currently
>    missing that capability without doing device specific parent
>    drivers like we do with drivers/usb/musb/musb_am335x.c. Note
>    that in this step we are moving the ti,hwmod to the parent
>    node
> 
> 2. When ti,sysc can configure things based on dts data alone the
>    same way as the legacy platform data, we can just drop the
>    ti,hwmod property. We also want to be able to test one driver
>    at a time between ti,sysc + ti,hwmod vs ti,sysc only
> 
> 3. Once ti,hwmod properties have been removed from the mainline
>    kernel, we can add a warning about ti,hwmod properties being
>    deprecated
> 
> 4. Then later on, we can also drop the hwmod platform data and
>    continue produce warnings if ti,hwmod is seen

Ok, I misunderstood the reason for keeping/adding "ti,hwmod".
I thought it was only about keeping backwards compatibility, but
it's still required since hwmod is only partially converted to DT
by this patchset.

That basically means, that this patchset breaks DT ABI *now*, since
old DT has no ti,sysc node?

-- Sebastian
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-01 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-29 22:34 [PATCHv4 0/7] Fix remaining issues to drop more omap platform data Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34 ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found] ` <20170929223411.9691-1-tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 1/7] dt-bindings: bus: Minimal TI sysc interconnect target module binding Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-01 13:11     ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-01 13:11       ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-01 17:14       ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-01 17:14         ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]         ` <20171001171406.GL4394-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-01 20:48           ` Sebastian Reichel [this message]
2017-10-01 20:48             ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-01 21:03             ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-01 21:03               ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <20170929223411.9691-2-tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 15:46       ` Rob Herring
2017-10-10 15:46         ` Rob Herring
2017-10-10 16:45         ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-10 16:45           ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 2/7] ARM: OMAP2+: Parse module IO range from dts for legacy "ti,hwmods" support Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` [PATCH 2/7] ARM: OMAP2+: Parse module IO range from dts for legacy "ti, hwmods" support Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 3/7] ARM: OMAP2+: Populate legacy resources for dma and smartreflex Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 5/7] ARM: dts: Add nodes for missing omap4 interconnect target modules Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <20170929223411.9691-6-tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-11 15:54       ` Peter Ujfalusi
2017-10-11 15:54         ` Peter Ujfalusi
     [not found]         ` <f5c57f0b-1423-c362-0fda-4069b77a2e38-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-11 16:58           ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-11 16:58             ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-10-12  6:07             ` Peter Ujfalusi
2017-10-12  6:07               ` Peter Ujfalusi
     [not found]               ` <da8d1d7f-f16d-8d71-cf49-acff79614610-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-12  8:40                 ` Matthijs van Duin
2017-10-12  8:40                   ` Matthijs van Duin
2017-10-12  9:10                   ` Peter Ujfalusi
2017-10-12  9:10                     ` Peter Ujfalusi
2017-10-13 16:46           ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-13 16:46             ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 6/7] ARM: dts: Configure SmartReflex only to idle the interconnect target module Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` [PATCH 7/7] ARM: dts: Use ti-sysc module driver for omap4 musb Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34     ` Tony Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <20170929223411.9691-8-tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 17:01       ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-10 17:01         ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] bus: ti-sysc: Add minimal TI sysc interconnect target driver Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-09-29 22:34   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-13 17:51   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-13 17:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2017-10-13 17:51     ` Tony Lindgren

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