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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: jiri@resnulli.us
Cc: alexander.duyck@gmail.com, amritha.nambiar@intel.com,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com,
	alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	jhs@mojatatu.com, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 0/6] tc-flower based cloud filters in i40e
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:46:52 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171011.134652.1653141099248918341.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171011203832.GA9297@nanopsycho>

From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:38:32 +0200

> Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 07:46:27PM CEST, alexander.duyck@gmail.com wrote:
>>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>> Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 02:24:12AM CEST, amritha.nambiar@intel.com wrote:
>>>>This patch series enables configuring cloud filters in i40e
>>>>using the tc-flower classifier. The classification function
>>>>of the filter is to match a packet to a class. cls_flower is
>>>>extended to offload classid to hardware. The offloaded classid
>>>>is used direct matched packets to a traffic class on the device.
>>>>The approach here is similar to the tc 'prio' qdisc which uses
>>>>the classid for band selection. The ingress qdisc is called ffff:0,
>>>>so traffic classes are ffff:1 to ffff:8 (i40e has max of 8 TCs).
>>>
>>>
>>> NACK. This clearly looks like abuse of classid to something
>>> else. Classid is here to identify qdisc instance. However, you use it
>>> for hw tclass identification. This is mixing of apples and oranges.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Please don't try to abuse things! This is not nice.
>>
>>This isn't an abuse. This is reproducing in hardware what is already
>>the behavior for software. Isn't that how offloads are supposed to
>>work?
> 
> What is meaning of classid in HW? Classid is SW only identification of
> qdisc instances. No relation to HW instances = abuse.

Jiri I really don't see what the problem is.

As long as the driver does the right thing when changes are made to the
qdisc, it doesn't really matter what "key" they use to refer to it.

It could have just as easily used the qdisc pointer and then internally
use some IDR allocated ID to refer to it in the driver and hardware.

But that's such a waste, we have a unique handle already so why can't
the driver just use that?

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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 0/6] tc-flower based cloud filters in i40e
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:46:52 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171011.134652.1653141099248918341.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171011203832.GA9297@nanopsycho>

From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:38:32 +0200

> Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 07:46:27PM CEST, alexander.duyck at gmail.com wrote:
>>On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>> Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 02:24:12AM CEST, amritha.nambiar at intel.com wrote:
>>>>This patch series enables configuring cloud filters in i40e
>>>>using the tc-flower classifier. The classification function
>>>>of the filter is to match a packet to a class. cls_flower is
>>>>extended to offload classid to hardware. The offloaded classid
>>>>is used direct matched packets to a traffic class on the device.
>>>>The approach here is similar to the tc 'prio' qdisc which uses
>>>>the classid for band selection. The ingress qdisc is called ffff:0,
>>>>so traffic classes are ffff:1 to ffff:8 (i40e has max of 8 TCs).
>>>
>>>
>>> NACK. This clearly looks like abuse of classid to something
>>> else. Classid is here to identify qdisc instance. However, you use it
>>> for hw tclass identification. This is mixing of apples and oranges.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Please don't try to abuse things! This is not nice.
>>
>>This isn't an abuse. This is reproducing in hardware what is already
>>the behavior for software. Isn't that how offloads are supposed to
>>work?
> 
> What is meaning of classid in HW? Classid is SW only identification of
> qdisc instances. No relation to HW instances = abuse.

Jiri I really don't see what the problem is.

As long as the driver does the right thing when changes are made to the
qdisc, it doesn't really matter what "key" they use to refer to it.

It could have just as easily used the qdisc pointer and then internally
use some IDR allocated ID to refer to it in the driver and hardware.

But that's such a waste, we have a unique handle already so why can't
the driver just use that?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-11 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-11  0:24 [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 0/6] tc-flower based cloud filters in i40e Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 1/6] cls_flower: Offload classid to hardware Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 2/6] i40e: Map TCs with the VSI seids Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 3/6] i40e: Cloud filter mode for set_switch_config command Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11 23:30   ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11 23:30     ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-26 21:10     ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-26 21:10       ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 4/6] i40e: Admin queue definitions for cloud filters Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11 23:30   ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11 23:30     ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 5/6] i40e: Clean up of " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11 23:30   ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11 23:30     ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11  0:24 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 6/6] i40e: Enable cloud filters via tc-flower Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11  0:24   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Amritha Nambiar
2017-10-11 23:30   ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-11 23:30     ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-26 21:29     ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-26 21:29       ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-26 21:35       ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-26 21:35         ` Shannon Nelson
2017-10-26 21:47         ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-26 21:47           ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-11 12:42 ` [jkirsher/next-queue PATCH v4 0/6] tc-flower based cloud filters in i40e Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-10-11 12:42   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-10-11 22:41   ` Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-11 22:41     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Nambiar, Amritha
2017-10-11 12:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 12:56   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 17:46   ` Alexander Duyck
2017-10-11 17:46     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2017-10-11 20:38     ` Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 20:38       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 20:46       ` David Miller [this message]
2017-10-11 20:46         ` David Miller
2017-10-11 20:58         ` Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 20:58           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 21:19           ` David Miller
2017-10-11 21:19             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Miller
2017-10-11 21:28             ` Jiri Pirko
2017-10-11 21:28               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2017-10-12  7:05           ` Alexander Duyck
2017-10-12  7:05             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2017-10-12  7:30             ` Jiri Pirko
2017-10-12  7:30               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko

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