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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bob Liu <liubo95@huawei.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch, mm: introduce arch_tlb_gather_mmu_lazy
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:18:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171123061831.GA12898@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171122193049.GI22648@arm.com>

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 07:30:50PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Michal,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:04:22PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 20-11-17 14:24:44, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:20:42AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Wed 15-11-17 17:33:32, Will Deacon wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > index ffdaea7954bb..7adde19b2bcc 100644
> > > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ static inline void tlb_flush(struct mmu_gather *tlb)
> > > > > >  	 * The ASID allocator will either invalidate the ASID or mark
> > > > > >  	 * it as used.
> > > > > >  	 */
> > > > > > -	if (tlb->fullmm)
> > > > > > +	if (tlb->lazy)
> > > > > >  		return;
> > > > > 
> > > > > This looks like the right idea, but I'd rather make this check:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (tlb->fullmm && tlb->lazy)
> > > > > 
> > > > > since the optimisation doesn't work for anything than tearing down the
> > > > > entire address space.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, that makes sense.
> > > > 
> > > > > Alternatively, I could actually go check MMF_UNSTABLE in tlb->mm, which
> > > > > would save you having to add an extra flag in the first place, e.g.:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (tlb->fullmm && !test_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &tlb->mm->flags))
> > > > > 
> > > > > which is a nice one-liner.
> > > > 
> > > > But that would make it oom_reaper specific. What about the softdirty
> > > > case Minchan has mentioned earlier?
> > > 
> > > We don't (yet) support that on arm64, so we're ok for now. If we do grow
> > > support for it, then I agree that we want a flag to identify the case where
> > > the address space is going away and only elide the invalidation then.
> > 
> > What do you think about the following patch instead? I have to confess
> > I do not really understand the fullmm semantic so I might introduce some
> > duplication by this flag. If you think this is a good idea, I will post
> > it in a separate thread.
> 
> 
> Please do! My only suggestion would be s/lazy/exit/, since I don't think the
> optimisation works in any other situation than the address space going away
> for good.

Yes, address space going. That's why I wanted to add additional check that
address space going without adding new flags.

http://lkml.kernel.org/r/<20171113002833.GA18301@bbox>

However, if you guys love to add new flag to distinguish, I prefer
"exit" to "lazy". It also would be better to add WARN_ON to catch
future potential wrong use case like OOM reaper.
Anyway, I'm not strong against so it up to you, Michal.

        WARN_ON_ONCE(exit == true && atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) > 0);

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bob Liu <liubo95@huawei.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch, mm: introduce arch_tlb_gather_mmu_lazy
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:18:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171123061831.GA12898@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171122193049.GI22648@arm.com>

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 07:30:50PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Michal,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 05:04:22PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 20-11-17 14:24:44, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:20:42AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Wed 15-11-17 17:33:32, Will Deacon wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > index ffdaea7954bb..7adde19b2bcc 100644
> > > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/tlb.h
> > > > > > @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ static inline void tlb_flush(struct mmu_gather *tlb)
> > > > > >  	 * The ASID allocator will either invalidate the ASID or mark
> > > > > >  	 * it as used.
> > > > > >  	 */
> > > > > > -	if (tlb->fullmm)
> > > > > > +	if (tlb->lazy)
> > > > > >  		return;
> > > > > 
> > > > > This looks like the right idea, but I'd rather make this check:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (tlb->fullmm && tlb->lazy)
> > > > > 
> > > > > since the optimisation doesn't work for anything than tearing down the
> > > > > entire address space.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, that makes sense.
> > > > 
> > > > > Alternatively, I could actually go check MMF_UNSTABLE in tlb->mm, which
> > > > > would save you having to add an extra flag in the first place, e.g.:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	if (tlb->fullmm && !test_bit(MMF_UNSTABLE, &tlb->mm->flags))
> > > > > 
> > > > > which is a nice one-liner.
> > > > 
> > > > But that would make it oom_reaper specific. What about the softdirty
> > > > case Minchan has mentioned earlier?
> > > 
> > > We don't (yet) support that on arm64, so we're ok for now. If we do grow
> > > support for it, then I agree that we want a flag to identify the case where
> > > the address space is going away and only elide the invalidation then.
> > 
> > What do you think about the following patch instead? I have to confess
> > I do not really understand the fullmm semantic so I might introduce some
> > duplication by this flag. If you think this is a good idea, I will post
> > it in a separate thread.
> 
> 
> Please do! My only suggestion would be s/lazy/exit/, since I don't think the
> optimisation works in any other situation than the address space going away
> for good.

Yes, address space going. That's why I wanted to add additional check that
address space going without adding new flags.

http://lkml.kernel.org/r/<20171113002833.GA18301@bbox>

However, if you guys love to add new flag to distinguish, I prefer
"exit" to "lazy". It also would be better to add WARN_ON to catch
future potential wrong use case like OOM reaper.
Anyway, I'm not strong against so it up to you, Michal.

        WARN_ON_ONCE(exit == true && atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) > 0);

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-23  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07  9:54 [RESEND PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: gather each vma to prevent leaking TLB entry Wang Nan
2017-11-07  9:54 ` Wang Nan
2017-11-07 10:09 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-07 10:09   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-10  0:19 ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-10  0:19   ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-10 10:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-10 10:15     ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-10 12:26     ` [PATCH] arch, mm: introduce arch_tlb_gather_mmu_lazy (was: Re: [RESEND PATCH] mm, oom_reaper: gather each vma to prevent) " Michal Hocko
2017-11-10 12:26       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-13  0:28       ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-13  0:28         ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-13  9:51         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-13  9:51           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-14  1:45           ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-14  1:45             ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-14  7:21             ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-14  7:21               ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15  0:12               ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15  0:12                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-15  8:14         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15  8:14           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16  0:44           ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-16  0:44             ` Minchan Kim
2017-11-16  9:19             ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16  9:19               ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15 17:33       ` Will Deacon
2017-11-15 17:33         ` Will Deacon
2017-11-16  9:20         ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-16  9:20           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-20 14:24           ` Will Deacon
2017-11-20 14:24             ` Will Deacon
2017-11-20 16:04             ` [PATCH] arch, mm: introduce arch_tlb_gather_mmu_lazy Michal Hocko
2017-11-20 16:04               ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-22 19:30               ` Will Deacon
2017-11-22 19:30                 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-23  6:18                 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-11-23  6:18                   ` Minchan Kim

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