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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 13:23:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180302132332.2c69559686ff24d15ff44ae8@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180302080125.GB6356@intel.com>

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 16:01:25 +0800 Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 04:01:05PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu,  1 Mar 2018 14:28:44 +0800 Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > When freeing a batch of pages from Per-CPU-Pages(PCP) back to buddy,
> > > the zone->lock is held and then pages are chosen from PCP's migratetype
> > > list. While there is actually no need to do this 'choose part' under
> > > lock since it's PCP pages, the only CPU that can touch them is us and
> > > irq is also disabled.
> > > 
> > > Moving this part outside could reduce lock held time and improve
> > > performance. Test with will-it-scale/page_fault1 full load:
> > > 
> > > kernel      Broadwell(2S)  Skylake(2S)   Broadwell(4S)  Skylake(4S)
> > > v4.16-rc2+  9034215        7971818       13667135       15677465
> > > this patch  9536374 +5.6%  8314710 +4.3% 14070408 +3.0% 16675866 +6.4%
> > > 
> > > What the test does is: starts $nr_cpu processes and each will repeatedly
> > > do the following for 5 minutes:
> > > 1 mmap 128M anonymouse space;
> > > 2 write access to that space;
> > > 3 munmap.
> > > The score is the aggregated iteration.
> > 
> > But it's a loss for uniprocessor systems: it adds more code and adds an
> > additional pass across a list.
> 
> Performance wise, I assume the loss is pretty small and can not
> be measured.
> 
> On my Sandybridge desktop, with will-it-scale/page_fault1/single process
> run to emulate uniprocessor system, the score is(average of 3 runs):
> 
> base(patch 1/3):	649710 
> this patch:		653554 +0.6%

Does that mean we got faster or slower?

> prefetch(patch 3/3):	650336 (in noise range compared to base)
> 
> On 4 sockets Intel Broadwell with will-it-scale/page_fault1/single
> process run:
> 
> base(patch 1/3):	498649
> this patch:		504171 +1.1%
> prefetch(patch 3/3): 	506334 +1.5% (compared to base)
> 
> It looks like we don't need to worry too much about performance for
> uniprocessor system.

Well.  We can say that of hundreds of patches.  And we end up with a
fatter and slower kernel than we otherwise would.

Please take a look, see if there's a tidy way of avoiding this. 
Probably there isn't, in which case oh well.  But let's at least try.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 13:23:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180302132332.2c69559686ff24d15ff44ae8@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180302080125.GB6356@intel.com>

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 16:01:25 +0800 Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 04:01:05PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu,  1 Mar 2018 14:28:44 +0800 Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > When freeing a batch of pages from Per-CPU-Pages(PCP) back to buddy,
> > > the zone->lock is held and then pages are chosen from PCP's migratetype
> > > list. While there is actually no need to do this 'choose part' under
> > > lock since it's PCP pages, the only CPU that can touch them is us and
> > > irq is also disabled.
> > > 
> > > Moving this part outside could reduce lock held time and improve
> > > performance. Test with will-it-scale/page_fault1 full load:
> > > 
> > > kernel      Broadwell(2S)  Skylake(2S)   Broadwell(4S)  Skylake(4S)
> > > v4.16-rc2+  9034215        7971818       13667135       15677465
> > > this patch  9536374 +5.6%  8314710 +4.3% 14070408 +3.0% 16675866 +6.4%
> > > 
> > > What the test does is: starts $nr_cpu processes and each will repeatedly
> > > do the following for 5 minutes:
> > > 1 mmap 128M anonymouse space;
> > > 2 write access to that space;
> > > 3 munmap.
> > > The score is the aggregated iteration.
> > 
> > But it's a loss for uniprocessor systems: it adds more code and adds an
> > additional pass across a list.
> 
> Performance wise, I assume the loss is pretty small and can not
> be measured.
> 
> On my Sandybridge desktop, with will-it-scale/page_fault1/single process
> run to emulate uniprocessor system, the score is(average of 3 runs):
> 
> base(patch 1/3):	649710 
> this patch:		653554 +0.6%

Does that mean we got faster or slower?

> prefetch(patch 3/3):	650336 (in noise range compared to base)
> 
> On 4 sockets Intel Broadwell with will-it-scale/page_fault1/single
> process run:
> 
> base(patch 1/3):	498649
> this patch:		504171 +1.1%
> prefetch(patch 3/3): 	506334 +1.5% (compared to base)
> 
> It looks like we don't need to worry too much about performance for
> uniprocessor system.

Well.  We can say that of hundreds of patches.  And we end up with a
fatter and slower kernel than we otherwise would.

Please take a look, see if there's a tidy way of avoiding this. 
Probably there isn't, in which case oh well.  But let's at least try.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-02 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-01  6:28 [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: improve zone->lock scalability Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: update pcp->count inside Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 12:11   ` David Rientjes
2018-03-01 12:11     ` David Rientjes
2018-03-01 13:45   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 13:45     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-12 13:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-13  2:11     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 13:55   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 13:55     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-02  7:15     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  7:15       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 15:34       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 15:34         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02  7:31     ` Huang, Ying
2018-03-02  7:31       ` Huang, Ying
2018-03-02  0:01   ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  0:01     ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  8:01     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:01       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 21:23       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-03-02 21:23         ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 21:25           ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-12 14:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-13  3:34     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-22 15:17       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-26  3:03         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 14:00   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 14:00     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-02  8:31     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:31       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 17:55     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 17:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 18:00       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 18:00         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 18:08         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 18:08           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-05 11:41       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:41         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:48         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:48           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06  7:55         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-06  7:55           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-06 12:27           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06 12:27             ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06 12:53             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-06 12:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-02  0:09   ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  0:09     ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  8:27     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:27       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-09  8:24       ` [PATCH v4 3/3 update] " Aaron Lu
2018-03-09 21:58         ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-10 14:46           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-12 15:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-12 17:32         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-13  3:35           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-13  7:04             ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-20  9:50               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-20 11:31                 ` [PATCH v4 3/3 update2] " Aaron Lu

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