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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdec481f-b402-64b6-75b0-350b370f3eac@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180305114159.GA32573@intel.com>

On 03/05/2018 12:41 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 06:55:25PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 03/01/2018 03:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>
>>> I am really surprised that this has such a big impact.
>>
>> It's even stranger to me. Struct page is 64 bytes these days, exactly a
>> a cache line. Unless that changed, Intel CPUs prefetched a "buddy" cache
>> line (that forms an aligned 128 bytes block with the one we touch).
>> Which is exactly a order-0 buddy struct page! Maybe that implicit
>> prefetching stopped at L2 and explicit goes all the way to L1, can't
> 
> The Intel Architecture Optimization Manual section 7.3.2 says:
> 
> prefetchT0 - fetch data into all cache levels
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: 1st, 2nd and 3rd level cache.
> 
> prefetchT2 - fetch data into 2nd and 3rd level caches (identical to
> prefetchT1)
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: 2nd and 3rd level cache.
> 
> prefetchNTA - fetch data into non-temporal cache close to the processor,
> minimizing cache pollution
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: must fetch into 3rd level cache with fast replacement.
> 
> I tried 'prefetcht0' and 'prefetcht2' instead of the default
> 'prefetchNTA' on a 2 sockets Intel Skylake, the two ended up with about
> the same performance number as prefetchNTA. I had expected prefetchT0 to
> deliver a better score if it was indeed due to L1D since prefetchT2 will
> not place data into L1 while prefetchT0 will, but looks like it is not
> the case here.
> 
> It feels more like the buddy cacheline isn't in any level of the caches
> without prefetch for some reason.

So the adjacent line prefetch might be disabled? Could you check bios or
the MSR mentioned in
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/disclosure-of-hw-prefetcher-control-on-some-intel-processors

>> remember. Would that make such a difference? It would be nice to do some
>> perf tests with cache counters to see what is really going on...
> 
> Compare prefetchT2 to no-prefetch, I saw these metrics change:
> 
> no-prefetch          change  prefetchT2       metrics
>             \                          \
> 	   stddev                     stddev
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       0.18            +0.0        0.18        perf-stat.branch-miss-rate%                                       
>  8.268e+09            +3.8%  8.585e+09        perf-stat.branch-misses                               
>  2.333e+10            +4.7%  2.443e+10        perf-stat.cache-misses                                            
>  2.402e+11            +5.0%  2.522e+11        perf-stat.cache-references                                    
>       3.52            -1.1%       3.48        perf-stat.cpi                                                     
>       0.02            -0.0        0.01 ±3%    perf-stat.dTLB-load-miss-rate%                           
>  8.677e+08            -7.3%  8.048e+08 ±3%    perf-stat.dTLB-load-misses                                        
>       1.18            +0.0        1.19        perf-stat.dTLB-store-miss-rate%             
>  2.359e+10            +6.0%  2.502e+10        perf-stat.dTLB-store-misses                                       
>  1.979e+12            +5.0%  2.078e+12        perf-stat.dTLB-stores                     
>  6.126e+09           +10.1%  6.745e+09 ±3%    perf-stat.iTLB-load-misses                                        
>       3464            -8.4%       3172 ±3%    perf-stat.instructions-per-iTLB-miss            
>       0.28            +1.1%       0.29        perf-stat.ipc                                                     
>  2.929e+09            +5.1%  3.077e+09        perf-stat.minor-faults                         
>  9.244e+09            +4.7%  9.681e+09        perf-stat.node-loads                                              
>  2.491e+08            +5.8%  2.634e+08        perf-stat.node-store-misses               
>  6.472e+09            +6.1%  6.869e+09        perf-stat.node-stores                                             
>  2.929e+09            +5.1%  3.077e+09        perf-stat.page-faults                          
>    2182469            -4.2%    2090977        perf-stat.path-length
> 
> Not sure if this is useful though...

Looks like most stats increased in absolute values as the work done
increased and this is a time-limited benchmark? Although number of
instructions (calculated from itlb misses and insns-per-itlb-miss) shows
less than 1% increase, so dunno. And the improvement comes from reduced
dTLB-load-misses? That makes no sense for order-0 buddy struct pages
which always share a page. And the memmap mapping should use huge pages.
BTW what is path-length?

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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdec481f-b402-64b6-75b0-350b370f3eac@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180305114159.GA32573@intel.com>

On 03/05/2018 12:41 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 06:55:25PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 03/01/2018 03:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>
>>> I am really surprised that this has such a big impact.
>>
>> It's even stranger to me. Struct page is 64 bytes these days, exactly a
>> a cache line. Unless that changed, Intel CPUs prefetched a "buddy" cache
>> line (that forms an aligned 128 bytes block with the one we touch).
>> Which is exactly a order-0 buddy struct page! Maybe that implicit
>> prefetching stopped at L2 and explicit goes all the way to L1, can't
> 
> The Intel Architecture Optimization Manual section 7.3.2 says:
> 
> prefetchT0 - fetch data into all cache levels
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: 1st, 2nd and 3rd level cache.
> 
> prefetchT2 - fetch data into 2nd and 3rd level caches (identical to
> prefetchT1)
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: 2nd and 3rd level cache.
> 
> prefetchNTA - fetch data into non-temporal cache close to the processor,
> minimizing cache pollution
> Intel Xeon Processors based on Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge and newer
> microarchitectures: must fetch into 3rd level cache with fast replacement.
> 
> I tried 'prefetcht0' and 'prefetcht2' instead of the default
> 'prefetchNTA' on a 2 sockets Intel Skylake, the two ended up with about
> the same performance number as prefetchNTA. I had expected prefetchT0 to
> deliver a better score if it was indeed due to L1D since prefetchT2 will
> not place data into L1 while prefetchT0 will, but looks like it is not
> the case here.
> 
> It feels more like the buddy cacheline isn't in any level of the caches
> without prefetch for some reason.

So the adjacent line prefetch might be disabled? Could you check bios or
the MSR mentioned in
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/disclosure-of-hw-prefetcher-control-on-some-intel-processors

>> remember. Would that make such a difference? It would be nice to do some
>> perf tests with cache counters to see what is really going on...
> 
> Compare prefetchT2 to no-prefetch, I saw these metrics change:
> 
> no-prefetch          change  prefetchT2       metrics
>             \                          \
> 	   stddev                     stddev
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       0.18            +0.0        0.18        perf-stat.branch-miss-rate%                                       
>  8.268e+09            +3.8%  8.585e+09        perf-stat.branch-misses                               
>  2.333e+10            +4.7%  2.443e+10        perf-stat.cache-misses                                            
>  2.402e+11            +5.0%  2.522e+11        perf-stat.cache-references                                    
>       3.52            -1.1%       3.48        perf-stat.cpi                                                     
>       0.02            -0.0        0.01 A+-3%    perf-stat.dTLB-load-miss-rate%                           
>  8.677e+08            -7.3%  8.048e+08 A+-3%    perf-stat.dTLB-load-misses                                        
>       1.18            +0.0        1.19        perf-stat.dTLB-store-miss-rate%             
>  2.359e+10            +6.0%  2.502e+10        perf-stat.dTLB-store-misses                                       
>  1.979e+12            +5.0%  2.078e+12        perf-stat.dTLB-stores                     
>  6.126e+09           +10.1%  6.745e+09 A+-3%    perf-stat.iTLB-load-misses                                        
>       3464            -8.4%       3172 A+-3%    perf-stat.instructions-per-iTLB-miss            
>       0.28            +1.1%       0.29        perf-stat.ipc                                                     
>  2.929e+09            +5.1%  3.077e+09        perf-stat.minor-faults                         
>  9.244e+09            +4.7%  9.681e+09        perf-stat.node-loads                                              
>  2.491e+08            +5.8%  2.634e+08        perf-stat.node-store-misses               
>  6.472e+09            +6.1%  6.869e+09        perf-stat.node-stores                                             
>  2.929e+09            +5.1%  3.077e+09        perf-stat.page-faults                          
>    2182469            -4.2%    2090977        perf-stat.path-length
> 
> Not sure if this is useful though...

Looks like most stats increased in absolute values as the work done
increased and this is a time-limited benchmark? Although number of
instructions (calculated from itlb misses and insns-per-itlb-miss) shows
less than 1% increase, so dunno. And the improvement comes from reduced
dTLB-load-misses? That makes no sense for order-0 buddy struct pages
which always share a page. And the memmap mapping should use huge pages.
BTW what is path-length?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-06  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-01  6:28 [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: improve zone->lock scalability Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: update pcp->count inside Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 12:11   ` David Rientjes
2018-03-01 12:11     ` David Rientjes
2018-03-01 13:45   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 13:45     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-12 13:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-13  2:11     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: do not hold lock when picking pages to free Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 13:55   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 13:55     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-02  7:15     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  7:15       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 15:34       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 15:34         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02  7:31     ` Huang, Ying
2018-03-02  7:31       ` Huang, Ying
2018-03-02  0:01   ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  0:01     ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  8:01     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:01       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 21:23       ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02 21:23         ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 21:25           ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-12 14:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-13  3:34     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-22 15:17       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-26  3:03         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm/free_pcppages_bulk: prefetch buddy while not holding lock Aaron Lu
2018-03-01  6:28   ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-01 14:00   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-01 14:00     ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-02  8:31     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:31       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02 17:55     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 17:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 18:00       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 18:00         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-02 18:08         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-02 18:08           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-05 11:41       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:41         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:48         ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-05 11:48           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06  7:55         ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-03-06  7:55           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-06 12:27           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06 12:27             ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-06 12:53             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-06 12:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-02  0:09   ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  0:09     ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-02  8:27     ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-02  8:27       ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-09  8:24       ` [PATCH v4 3/3 update] " Aaron Lu
2018-03-09 21:58         ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-10 14:46           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-12 15:05           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-12 17:32         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-13  3:35           ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-13  7:04             ` Aaron Lu
2018-03-20  9:50               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-03-20 11:31                 ` [PATCH v4 3/3 update2] " Aaron Lu

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