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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Popuri, Sriram" <Sriram.Popuri@netapp.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Knight, Frederick" <Frederick.Knight@netapp.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/14] nvme: use the changed namespaces list log to clear ns data changed AENs
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 14:21:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180526122137.GA21257@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN7PR06MB403359D8914D0A17425C037E92680@BN7PR06MB4033.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:05:02PM +0000, Popuri, Sriram wrote:
> Reading the spec it looks like ns log is alternate approach:
> 
> "Namespace Attribute Changed: The Identify Namespace data structure for one or more namespaces, as well as the Namespace List returned when the Identify command is issued with the CNS field set to 02h, have changed. Host software may use this event as an indication that it should read the Identify Namespace data structures for each namespace to determine what has changed.
> 
> Alternatively, host software may request the Changed Namespace List (Log Identifier 04h) to determine which namespaces in this controller have changed Identify Namespace information since the last time the log page was read."
> 
> My question is: Does the target needs to implement log page 04h as this is an optional log page and the text above suggests its used in alternate way?

Section 5.2 clearly states that each AER comes with a log page to
clear it, and the above does not contain any language to explicitly
override it. So my reading of the spec is that to clear the event you need
to read the log page, but to find out what has changed you might issue
Identify commands instead.

> If target is not required to implement, then I guess your change should still work because if log page 04h fails, it fails back to rescan. Correct?

Independ of what the spec actually requires, the code tries to robust
as possible and falls back to doing the manual scan.

> I think you can optimize this by checking the "Log Page Identifier" field in your result and accordingly setting EVENT_NS_CHANGED. I assume target would clear this if log page 04h is not supported.

We can try that, but I'm not sure what it is going to buy us.

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From: hch@lst.de (Christoph Hellwig)
Subject: [PATCH 13/14] nvme: use the changed namespaces list log to clear ns data changed AENs
Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 14:21:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180526122137.GA21257@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN7PR06MB403359D8914D0A17425C037E92680@BN7PR06MB4033.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

On Sat, May 26, 2018@12:05:02PM +0000, Popuri, Sriram wrote:
> Reading the spec it looks like ns log is alternate approach:
> 
> "Namespace Attribute Changed: The Identify Namespace data structure for one or more namespaces, as well as the Namespace List returned when the Identify command is issued with the CNS field set to 02h, have changed. Host software may use this event as an indication that it should read the Identify Namespace data structures for each namespace to determine what has changed.
> 
> Alternatively, host software may request the Changed Namespace List (Log Identifier 04h) to determine which namespaces in this controller have changed Identify Namespace information since the last time the log page was read."
> 
> My question is: Does the target needs to implement log page 04h as this is an optional log page and the text above suggests its used in alternate way?

Section 5.2 clearly states that each AER comes with a log page to
clear it, and the above does not contain any language to explicitly
override it. So my reading of the spec is that to clear the event you need
to read the log page, but to find out what has changed you might issue
Identify commands instead.

> If target is not required to implement, then I guess your change should still work because if log page 04h fails, it fails back to rescan. Correct?

Independ of what the spec actually requires, the code tries to robust
as possible and falls back to doing the manual scan.

> I think you can optimize this by checking the "Log Page Identifier" field in your result and accordingly setting EVENT_NS_CHANGED. I assume target would clear this if log page 04h is not supported.

We can try that, but I'm not sure what it is going to buy us.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-26 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-26 10:27 nvme/nvmet AEN and log page fixups Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 01/14] block: unexport check_disk_size_change Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:33   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:33     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 02/14] block: don't print a message when the device went away Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:34   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:34     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 03/14] nvme.h: untangle AEN notice definitions Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:35   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:35     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 04/14] nvme.h: add the changed namespace list log Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:35   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:35     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 05/14] nvme.h: add AER configuration symbols Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:35   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:35     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 06/14] nvmet: add a new nvmet_zero_sgl helper Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:36   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:36     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  8:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  8:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 07/14] nvmet: split log page implementation Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:38   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:38     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 08/14] nvmet: implement the changed namespaces log Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:53   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:53     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  8:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  8:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  8:16       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  8:16         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  8:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  8:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 16:59   ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 16:59     ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 17:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 17:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 20:44       ` Daniel Verkamp
2018-05-29 20:44         ` Daniel Verkamp
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 09/14] nvmet: Add AEN configuration support Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:54   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:54     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29 17:15   ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 17:15     ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 17:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 17:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 17:35       ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 17:35         ` Verkamp, Daniel
2018-05-29 17:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29 17:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 10/14] nvmet: mask pending AERs Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:56   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:56     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 11/14] nvme: submit AEN event configuration on startup Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:56   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:56     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 12/14] nvme: mark nvme_queue_scan static Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  6:57   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:57     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 13/14] nvme: use the changed namespaces list log to clear ns data changed AENs Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 12:05   ` Popuri, Sriram
2018-05-26 12:05     ` Popuri, Sriram
2018-05-26 12:21     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-05-26 12:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 13:02       ` Knight, Frederick
2018-05-28  6:59   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  6:59     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-06-04 19:59   ` Keith Busch
2018-06-04 19:59     ` Keith Busch
2018-06-05  4:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05  4:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05 14:37       ` Keith Busch
2018-06-05 14:37         ` Keith Busch
2018-05-26 10:27 ` [PATCH 14/14] nvme: limit warnings from nvme_identify_ns Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-26 10:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-28  7:00   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-28  7:00     ` Johannes Thumshirn

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