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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>,
	Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>,
	Alan Douglas <adouglas@cadence.com>,
	Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>, Damian Kos <dkos@cadence.com>,
	Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>,
	Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>,
	Suresh Punnoose <sureshp@cadence.com>,
	Rafal Ciepiela <rafalc@cadence.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>, Kumar Gala <gala>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:07:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614090758.17180594@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180614041941.4i2cadzoevujmzha@ninjato>

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:19:42 +0900
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> > +/**
> > + * struct i3c_priv_xfer - I3C SDR private transfer
> > + * @rnw: encodes the transfer direction. true for a read, false for a write
> > + * @len: transfer length in bytes of the transfer
> > + * @data: input/output buffer
> > + */
> > +struct i3c_priv_xfer {
> > +	bool rnw;
> > +	u16 len;
> > +	union {
> > +		void *in;
> > +		const void *out;
> > +	} data;  
> 
> So, this is probably where most payloads end up?
> 
> I didn't notice any sign of DMA in these patches, but given my
> experiences, DMA will come sooner or later. And in I2C, this was
> problematic because then a lot of drivers were in the wild getting their
> buffers from everywhere (stack!). We now have an opt-in approach to mark
> buffers as DMA-safe.
> 
> I don't know if typical I3C transfers will be similar to I2C with
> usually small payloads where DMA usually makes not much sense. Yet, I
> think, that it might be a good idea to think about how this shall be
> handled with I3C right away. Maybe simply enforcing buffers to be
> DMA-safe. Or whatever.
> 
> A clear rule on that might save you hazzle later.

I completely agree. I'll clarify that and for people to pass DMA-able
buffers to this struct (just as the SPI framework does). Note that we
don't really have a way to ensure that the buffer is actually
DMA-safe from the core, because this notion is architecture/SoC
dependent.

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Wolfram
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>,
	Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>,
	Alan Douglas <adouglas@cadence.com>,
	Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>, Damian Kos <dkos@cadence.com>,
	Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>,
	Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>,
	Suresh Punnoose <sureshp@cadence.com>,
	Rafal Ciepiela <rafalc@cadence.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vitor Soares <Vitor.Soares@synopsys.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Xiang Lin <Xiang.Lin@synaptics.com>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:07:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614090758.17180594@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180614041941.4i2cadzoevujmzha@ninjato>

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:19:42 +0900
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> > +/**
> > + * struct i3c_priv_xfer - I3C SDR private transfer
> > + * @rnw: encodes the transfer direction. true for a read, false for a write
> > + * @len: transfer length in bytes of the transfer
> > + * @data: input/output buffer
> > + */
> > +struct i3c_priv_xfer {
> > +	bool rnw;
> > +	u16 len;
> > +	union {
> > +		void *in;
> > +		const void *out;
> > +	} data;  
> 
> So, this is probably where most payloads end up?
> 
> I didn't notice any sign of DMA in these patches, but given my
> experiences, DMA will come sooner or later. And in I2C, this was
> problematic because then a lot of drivers were in the wild getting their
> buffers from everywhere (stack!). We now have an opt-in approach to mark
> buffers as DMA-safe.
> 
> I don't know if typical I3C transfers will be similar to I2C with
> usually small payloads where DMA usually makes not much sense. Yet, I
> think, that it might be a good idea to think about how this shall be
> handled with I3C right away. Maybe simply enforcing buffers to be
> DMA-safe. Or whatever.
> 
> A clear rule on that might save you hazzle later.

I completely agree. I'll clarify that and for people to pass DMA-able
buffers to this struct (just as the SPI framework does). Note that we
don't really have a way to ensure that the buffer is actually
DMA-safe from the core, because this notion is architecture/SoC
dependent.

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Wolfram
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Przemyslaw Sroka <psroka@cadence.com>,
	Arkadiusz Golec <agolec@cadence.com>,
	Alan Douglas <adouglas@cadence.com>,
	Bartosz Folta <bfolta@cadence.com>, Damian Kos <dkos@cadence.com>,
	Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak <alicja@cadence.com>,
	Cyprian Wronka <cwronka@cadence.com>,
	Suresh Punnoose <sureshp@cadence.com>,
	Rafal Ciepiela <rafalc@cadence.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vitor Soares <Vitor.Soares@synopsys.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Xiang Lin <Xiang.Lin@synaptics.com>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:07:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614090758.17180594@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180614041941.4i2cadzoevujmzha@ninjato>

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:19:42 +0900
Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> > +/**
> > + * struct i3c_priv_xfer - I3C SDR private transfer
> > + * @rnw: encodes the transfer direction. true for a read, false for a write
> > + * @len: transfer length in bytes of the transfer
> > + * @data: input/output buffer
> > + */
> > +struct i3c_priv_xfer {
> > +	bool rnw;
> > +	u16 len;
> > +	union {
> > +		void *in;
> > +		const void *out;
> > +	} data;  
> 
> So, this is probably where most payloads end up?
> 
> I didn't notice any sign of DMA in these patches, but given my
> experiences, DMA will come sooner or later. And in I2C, this was
> problematic because then a lot of drivers were in the wild getting their
> buffers from everywhere (stack!). We now have an opt-in approach to mark
> buffers as DMA-safe.
> 
> I don't know if typical I3C transfers will be similar to I2C with
> usually small payloads where DMA usually makes not much sense. Yet, I
> think, that it might be a good idea to think about how this shall be
> handled with I3C right away. Maybe simply enforcing buffers to be
> DMA-safe. Or whatever.
> 
> A clear rule on that might save you hazzle later.

I completely agree. I'll clarify that and for people to pass DMA-able
buffers to this struct (just as the SPI framework does). Note that we
don't really have a way to ensure that the buffer is actually
DMA-safe from the core, because this notion is architecture/SoC
dependent.

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Wolfram
> 

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Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-30  7:47 [PATCH v4 00/10] Add the I3C subsystem Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04  9:11   ` Przemyslaw Gaj
2018-06-04  9:11     ` Przemyslaw Gaj
2018-06-04  9:11     ` Przemyslaw Gaj
2018-06-04 11:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04 11:24       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04 11:24       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-14  4:19   ` Wolfram Sang
2018-06-14  4:19     ` Wolfram Sang
2018-06-14  7:07     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2018-06-14  7:07       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-14  7:07       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-14  8:15       ` Wolfram Sang
2018-06-14  8:15         ` Wolfram Sang
2018-06-20 11:37   ` Sekhar Nori
2018-06-20 11:37     ` Sekhar Nori
2018-06-20 11:37     ` Sekhar Nori
2018-06-20 12:47     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-20 12:47       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-20 12:47       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 14:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 14:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 14:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 14:41     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 14:41       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 14:41       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 15:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 15:03         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 15:03         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 15:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 15:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 15:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 17:12         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 17:12           ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 17:12           ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 18:35           ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-11 20:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 20:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 20:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-11 22:09             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 22:09               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 22:09               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:21               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:21                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:46                 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:46                   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:46                   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12 10:03                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 10:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 10:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12 10:24                     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12 10:24                       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12 10:24                       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  4:41           ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-12  4:41             ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-12  4:41             ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-12  8:04             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:04               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:04               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-12  8:08             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-07-12  8:44               ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-12  8:44                 ` Peter Rosin
2018-07-12  8:44                 ` Peter Rosin
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] docs: driver-api: Add I3C documentation Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] i3c: Add sysfs ABI spec Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-29 13:37   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-29 13:37     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-29 13:37     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-30  9:10     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-30  9:10       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-30  9:10       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-02  9:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02  9:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02  9:47       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 11:10       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-02 11:10         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-02 11:10         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-02 11:32         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 11:32           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 11:32           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] dt-bindings: i3c: Document core bindings Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:55   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-30  7:55     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-30  7:55     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-03-30  7:59     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:59       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:59       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-09 20:24   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:24     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:24     ` Rob Herring
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] dt-bindings: i3c: Add macros to help fill I3C/I2C device's reg property Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] MAINTAINERS: Add myself as the I3C subsystem maintainer Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] i3c: master: Add driver for Cadence IP Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04  9:24   ` Przemyslaw Gaj
2018-06-04  9:24     ` Przemyslaw Gaj
2018-06-04 11:26     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04 11:26       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-04 11:26       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] dt-bindings: i3c: Document Cadence I3C master bindings Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-09 20:25   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:25     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:25     ` Rob Herring
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] gpio: Add a driver for Cadence I3C GPIO expander Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-26  8:44   ` Linus Walleij
2018-04-26  8:44     ` Linus Walleij
2018-04-26  8:44     ` Linus Walleij
2018-06-22  8:24     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-22  8:24       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-22  8:24       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] dt-bindings: gpio: Add bindings for Cadence I3C gpio expander Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-03-30  7:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-09 20:26   ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:26     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-09 20:26     ` Rob Herring
2018-04-23 17:38 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Add the I3C subsystem Boris Brezillon
2018-04-23 17:38   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-23 17:38   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-23 17:56   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-23 17:56     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-23 17:56     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-29 13:36     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-29 13:36       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-29 13:36       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-30  9:37       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-30  9:37         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-04-30  9:37         ` Boris Brezillon

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