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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Julia Cartwright <julia@ni.com>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Glexiner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:26:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711212626.5992e2c8@vmware.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180712003100.GC32091@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:31:00 -0700
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:06:49AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:56:47 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:21:46AM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:  
> > > >  static inline void tracepoint_synchronize_unregister(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > +	synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > > >  	synchronize_sched();
> > > >  }    
> > > 
> > > Given you below do call_rcu_sched() and then call_srcu(), isn't the
> > > above the wrong way around?  
> > 
> > Good catch!
> > 
> > 	release_probes()
> > 		call_rcu_sched()  
> > 			---> rcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 
> > 	tracepoint_synchronize_unregister()
> > 		synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > 			< finishes right away >
> > 		synchronize_sched()  
> > 			--> rcu_free_old_probes()
> > 				--> srcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 	
> > Here tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() returned before the srcu
> > portion ran.  
> 
> But isn't the point of synchronize_rcu to make sure that we're no longer in
> an RCU read-side section, not that *all* queued callbacks already ran? So in that
> case, I think it doesn't matter which order the 2 synchronize functions are
> called in. Please let me know if if I missed something!
> 
> I believe what we're trying to guarantee here is that no tracepoints using
> either flavor of RCU are active after tracepoint_synchronize_unregister
> returns.

Yes you are correct. If tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() is only to
make sure that there is no more trace events using the probes, then
this should work. I was focused on looking at it with release_probes()
too. So the patch is fine as is.

-- Steve

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: rostedt at goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Subject: [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:26:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711212626.5992e2c8@vmware.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180712003100.GC32091@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:31:00 -0700
Joel Fernandes <joel at joelfernandes.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:06:49AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:56:47 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz at infradead.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:21:46AM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:  
> > > >  static inline void tracepoint_synchronize_unregister(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > +	synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > > >  	synchronize_sched();
> > > >  }    
> > > 
> > > Given you below do call_rcu_sched() and then call_srcu(), isn't the
> > > above the wrong way around?  
> > 
> > Good catch!
> > 
> > 	release_probes()
> > 		call_rcu_sched()  
> > 			---> rcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 
> > 	tracepoint_synchronize_unregister()
> > 		synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > 			< finishes right away >
> > 		synchronize_sched()  
> > 			--> rcu_free_old_probes()
> > 				--> srcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 	
> > Here tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() returned before the srcu
> > portion ran.  
> 
> But isn't the point of synchronize_rcu to make sure that we're no longer in
> an RCU read-side section, not that *all* queued callbacks already ran? So in that
> case, I think it doesn't matter which order the 2 synchronize functions are
> called in. Please let me know if if I missed something!
> 
> I believe what we're trying to guarantee here is that no tracepoints using
> either flavor of RCU are active after tracepoint_synchronize_unregister
> returns.

Yes you are correct. If tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() is only to
make sure that there is no more trace events using the probes, then
this should work. I was focused on looking at it with release_probes()
too. So the patch is fine as is.

-- Steve
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From: rostedt@goodmis.org (Steven Rostedt)
Subject: [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:26:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711212626.5992e2c8@vmware.local.home> (raw)
Message-ID: <20180712012626.ZCIl-LMl4Ypp522XheX_JzEqeWHli846bK-j6XRs1ls@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180712003100.GC32091@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:31:00 -0700
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018@09:06:49AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:56:47 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:21:46AM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:  
> > > >  static inline void tracepoint_synchronize_unregister(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > +	synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > > >  	synchronize_sched();
> > > >  }    
> > > 
> > > Given you below do call_rcu_sched() and then call_srcu(), isn't the
> > > above the wrong way around?  
> > 
> > Good catch!
> > 
> > 	release_probes()
> > 		call_rcu_sched()  
> > 			---> rcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 
> > 	tracepoint_synchronize_unregister()
> > 		synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu);
> > 			< finishes right away >
> > 		synchronize_sched()  
> > 			--> rcu_free_old_probes()
> > 				--> srcu_free_old_probes() queued  
> > 	
> > Here tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() returned before the srcu
> > portion ran.  
> 
> But isn't the point of synchronize_rcu to make sure that we're no longer in
> an RCU read-side section, not that *all* queued callbacks already ran? So in that
> case, I think it doesn't matter which order the 2 synchronize functions are
> called in. Please let me know if if I missed something!
> 
> I believe what we're trying to guarantee here is that no tracepoints using
> either flavor of RCU are active after tracepoint_synchronize_unregister
> returns.

Yes you are correct. If tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() is only to
make sure that there is no more trace events using the probes, then
this should work. I was focused on looking at it with release_probes()
too. So the patch is fine as is.

-- Steve
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-28 18:21 [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq tracepoints Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21 ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] srcu: Add notrace variants of srcu_read_{lock,unlock} Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] srcu: Add notrace variant of srcu_dereference Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] trace/irqsoff: Split reset into separate functions Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11 12:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:49     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:00       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 14:27       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 14:27         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 14:27         ` paulmck
2018-07-11 14:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 14:46           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 14:46           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 15:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 15:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 15:15             ` paulmck
2018-07-11 20:56             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:56               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:56               ` joel
2018-07-12  1:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:22                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:22                 ` rostedt
2018-07-12  2:35                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:35                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:35                   ` joel
2018-07-11 20:52           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:52             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:52             ` joel
2018-07-12  3:21             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  3:21               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  3:21               ` rostedt
2018-07-12  4:28               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  4:28                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  4:28                 ` joel
2018-07-12 13:35                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:35                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:35                   ` rostedt
2018-07-12 19:17                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 19:17                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 19:17                     ` joel
2018-07-12 20:15                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:15                       ` rostedt
2018-07-12 20:29                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 20:29                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 20:29                         ` joel
2018-07-12 20:31                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:31                           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:53     ` peterz
2018-07-12  2:32     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:32       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:32       ` joel
2018-07-11 12:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:56     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:06       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 15:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:17         ` peterz
2018-07-11 15:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 15:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 15:26           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 16:46           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:46             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:46             ` mathieu.desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40           ` mathieu.desnoyers
2018-07-12  0:31       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:31         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:31         ` joel
2018-07-12  1:26         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2018-07-12  1:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:26           ` rostedt
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-06 22:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-06 22:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-06 22:06     ` rostedt
2018-07-07  4:20     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-07  4:20       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-07  4:20       ` joel
2018-07-10 14:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-10 14:20     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-10 14:20     ` rostedt
2018-07-10 17:33     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:33       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:33       ` joel
2018-07-11 13:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 13:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 13:12     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:19       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22         ` rostedt
2018-07-12  8:38       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  8:38         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  8:38         ` joel
2018-07-12 13:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:37           ` rostedt
2018-07-12  0:44     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:44       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:44       ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] lib: Add module to simulate atomic sections for testing preemptoff tracers Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11  0:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:47     ` rostedt
2018-07-11  5:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:26       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:26       ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] kselftests: Add tests for the preemptoff and irqsoff tracers Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11  0:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:49     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:49     ` rostedt
2018-07-11  5:27     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:27       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:27       ` joel
2018-07-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq tracepoints Joel Fernandes
2018-07-03 14:15   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-03 14:15   ` joel
2018-07-03 14:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-03 14:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-03 14:23     ` rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-21 22:32 Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32   ` joel
2018-06-07 20:38 [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38   ` joelaf

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