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From: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhaosl@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181121143816.GD4426@caravaggio> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121151526.5785b43f@redhat.com>

Igor,

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:15:26PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:35:47 -0500
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 04:31:10PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:37:54 +0100
> > > Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On 16/11/18 17:29, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > > General suggestions for this series:
> > > > >   1. Preferably don't do multiple changes within a patch
> > > > >      neither post huge patches (unless it's pure code movement).
> > > > >      (it's easy to squash patches later it necessary)
> > > > >   2. Start small, pick a table generalize it and send as
> > > > >      one small patchset. Tables are often independent
> > > > >      and it's much easier on both author/reviewer to agree upon
> > > > >      changes and rewrite it if necessary.    
> > > > 
> > > > How would that be done?  This series is on the bigger side, agreed, but
> > > > most of it is really just code movement.  It's a starting point, having
> > > > a generic ACPI library is way beyond what this is trying to do.  
> > > I've tried to give suggestions how to restructure series
> > > on per patch basis. In my opinion it quite possible to split
> > > series in several smaller ones and it should really help with
> > > making series cleaner and easier/faster to review/amend/merge
> > > vs what we have in v5.
> > > (it's more frustrating to rework large series vs smaller one)
> > > 
> > > If something isn't clear, it's easy to reach out to me here
> > > or directly (email/irc/github) for clarification/feed back.  
> > 
> > I assume the #1 goal is to add reduced HW support.  So another
> > option to speed up merging is to just go ahead and duplicate a
> > bunch of code e.g. in pc_virt.c acpi/reduced.c or in any other
> > file.
> > This way it might be easier to see what's common code and what isn't.
> > And I think offline Igor said he might prefer that way. Right Igor?
> You mean probably 'x86 reduced hw' support. That's was what I've
> already suggested for PCI AML code during patch review. Just don't
> call it generic when it's not and place code in hw/i386/ directory beside
> acpi-build.c. It might apply to some other tables (i.e. complex cases).
> 
> On per patch review I gave suggestions how to amend series to make
> it acceptable without doing complex refactoring and pointed out
> places we probably shouldn't refactor now and just duplicate as
> it's too complex or not clear how to generalize it yet.
> 
> Problem with duplication is that a random contributor is not
> around to clean code up after a feature is merged and we end up
> with a bunch of messy code.
> 
> A word to the contributors,
> Don't do refactoring in silence, keep discussing approaches here,
> suggest alternatives. That way it's easier to reach a compromise
> and merge it with less iterations. And if you do split it in smaller
> parts, the process should go even faster.
> 
> I'll sent a small RSDP refactoring series for reference.
I was already working on the RSDP changes. Let me know if I should drop
that work too.

Cheers,
Samuel.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhaosl@gmail.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 15:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181121143816.GD4426@caravaggio> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121151526.5785b43f@redhat.com>

Igor,

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:15:26PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 07:35:47 -0500
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 04:31:10PM +0100, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:37:54 +0100
> > > Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On 16/11/18 17:29, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > > General suggestions for this series:
> > > > >   1. Preferably don't do multiple changes within a patch
> > > > >      neither post huge patches (unless it's pure code movement).
> > > > >      (it's easy to squash patches later it necessary)
> > > > >   2. Start small, pick a table generalize it and send as
> > > > >      one small patchset. Tables are often independent
> > > > >      and it's much easier on both author/reviewer to agree upon
> > > > >      changes and rewrite it if necessary.    
> > > > 
> > > > How would that be done?  This series is on the bigger side, agreed, but
> > > > most of it is really just code movement.  It's a starting point, having
> > > > a generic ACPI library is way beyond what this is trying to do.  
> > > I've tried to give suggestions how to restructure series
> > > on per patch basis. In my opinion it quite possible to split
> > > series in several smaller ones and it should really help with
> > > making series cleaner and easier/faster to review/amend/merge
> > > vs what we have in v5.
> > > (it's more frustrating to rework large series vs smaller one)
> > > 
> > > If something isn't clear, it's easy to reach out to me here
> > > or directly (email/irc/github) for clarification/feed back.  
> > 
> > I assume the #1 goal is to add reduced HW support.  So another
> > option to speed up merging is to just go ahead and duplicate a
> > bunch of code e.g. in pc_virt.c acpi/reduced.c or in any other
> > file.
> > This way it might be easier to see what's common code and what isn't.
> > And I think offline Igor said he might prefer that way. Right Igor?
> You mean probably 'x86 reduced hw' support. That's was what I've
> already suggested for PCI AML code during patch review. Just don't
> call it generic when it's not and place code in hw/i386/ directory beside
> acpi-build.c. It might apply to some other tables (i.e. complex cases).
> 
> On per patch review I gave suggestions how to amend series to make
> it acceptable without doing complex refactoring and pointed out
> places we probably shouldn't refactor now and just duplicate as
> it's too complex or not clear how to generalize it yet.
> 
> Problem with duplication is that a random contributor is not
> around to clean code up after a feature is merged and we end up
> with a bunch of messy code.
> 
> A word to the contributors,
> Don't do refactoring in silence, keep discussing approaches here,
> suggest alternatives. That way it's easier to reach a compromise
> and merge it with less iterations. And if you do split it in smaller
> parts, the process should go even faster.
> 
> I'll sent a small RSDP refactoring series for reference.
I was already working on the RSDP changes. Let me know if I should drop
that work too.

Cheers,
Samuel.

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Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-05  1:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/24] hw: i386: Decouple the ACPI build from the PC machine type Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-09 14:23     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 14:42       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 15:13       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-22 15:13         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/24] hw: acpi: Export ACPI build alignment API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-09 14:27     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 14:42       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/24] hw: acpi: The RSDP build API can return void Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-06 10:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-06 10:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-06 10:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-06 10:43       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:24     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/24] hw: acpi: Export the RSDP build API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/24] hw: acpi: Implement XSDT support for RSDP Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:16     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:36       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:53     ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:53       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 18:27     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20  8:23       ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-20  8:23         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 14:42       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 16:26       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-22 16:26         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-23  9:36         ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-23  9:36           ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/24] hw: acpi: Factorize the RSDP build API implementation Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/24] hw: acpi: Generalize AML build routines Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 13:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 15:00     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 15:00       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 13:37   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/24] hw: acpi: Factorize _OSC AML across architectures Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/24] hw: i386: Move PCI host definitions to pci_host.h Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09 14:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-09 14:30     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/24] hw: acpi: Export the PCI host and holes getters Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-13 15:59   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-13 15:59     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 15:43     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 15:43       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-23 10:55       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-23 10:55         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/24] hw: acpi: Export and generalize the PCI host AML API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-14 10:55   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-14 10:55     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:12     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 23:12       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-23 11:04       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-23 11:04         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/24] hw: acpi: Export the MCFG getter Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 12:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-15 12:36     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 23:21       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-27 13:54       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-27 13:54         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/24] hw: acpi: Do not create hotplug method when handler is not defined Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-09  9:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-09  9:12   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/24] hw: i386: Make the hotpluggable memory size property more generic Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 12:49   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-15 12:49     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/24] hw: i386: Export the i386 ACPI SRAT build method Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-15 13:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-15 13:28     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:27     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 23:27       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-26 15:47       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-26 15:47         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/24] hw: acpi: Fix memory hotplug AML generation error Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-08 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-08 14:23     ` Igor Mammedov
2019-01-14 18:35     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-14 18:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 17/24] hw: acpi: Export the PCI hotplug API Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 18/24] hw: i386: Export the MADT build method Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16  9:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16  9:27   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 19/24] hw: acpi: Retrieve the PCI bus from AcpiPciHpState Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16  9:39   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16  9:39     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 19:42     ` [Qemu-devel] " Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-19 15:37       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 15:37         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 18:02         ` [Qemu-devel] " Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-19 18:02           ` Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-20  8:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-20  8:26             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 19:42     ` Boeuf, Sebastien
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 20/24] hw: acpi: Define ACPI tables builder interface Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 16:02   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 16:02     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 23:57     ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 23:57       ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-27 14:08       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-27 14:08         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 21/24] hw: i386: Implement the ACPI builder interface for PC Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 22/24] hw: pci-host: piix: Return PCI host pointer instead of PCI bus Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 11:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 11:09     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 23/24] hw: i386: Set ACPI configuration PCI host pointer Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 24/24] hw: i386: Refactor PCI host getter Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-05  1:40   ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-16 16:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/24] ACPI reorganization for hardware-reduced API addition Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 16:29   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-16 16:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-16 16:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-19 15:31     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 15:31       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-19 17:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-19 17:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-19 18:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-19 18:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-20 21:35           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-20 21:35             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-20 12:57         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-20 12:57         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-20 21:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-20 21:36             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-21 12:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 12:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 13:50         ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 13:50           ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-21 13:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 13:57             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-21 14:15         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:15           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-21 14:38           ` Samuel Ortiz [this message]
2018-11-21 14:38             ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22 10:39             ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-22 10:39               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-22  0:17           ` Samuel Ortiz
2018-11-22  0:17             ` Samuel Ortiz

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