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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Abuse <abuse@2.abuse.bgcomp.co.uk>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:53:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181130155347.62cf074d@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2269948.6tYQeUj9R1@eth7>

[ Cleared out the Cc list to something more reasonable ]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:45:57 +0000
Abuse <abuse@2.abuse.bgcomp.co.uk> wrote:

> On Friday, 30 November 2018 20:42:28 GMT David Miller wrote:
> > From: Abuse <abuse@2.abuse.bgcomp.co.uk>
> > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:39:01 +0000
> >   
> > > I assume I will now be barred.  
> > 
> > Perhaps, but not because you said fuck.  It would be because you're
> > intentionally creating a disturbance on the list and making it more
> > difficult for developers to get their work done and intentionally
> > creating a distraction and a hostile environment for the discussion at
> > hand.
> > 
> > That would not be censorship.
> > 
> > There is a big difference.
> >   
> 
> I would beg to differ, as would calling the removal of the word 'Fuck' censorship.

Technically that is censorship. The only reason to remove the word is
because some people find it unnecessary, where as other people find it
appropriate.

Removing language people find unnecessary or offensive is censorship.

That said. I don't always find censorship a bad thing. Removing
language that was an attack to someone's race, religion, sexuality, is
also censorship. But I'm fine with that kind of censorship. Censoring
words that someone simply finds distasteful, I honestly don't really
care, because some people find "heck" distasteful too.

I would also agree with you that David blocking you for creating a
disturbance is also censorship. But that's also a kind of censorship I
would prefer to have. (Blocking spam is censorship too).

-- Steve


> 
> It's a word I find is totally unnecessary in normal public usage.
> 




  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-30 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-30 19:27 [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] MIPS: replace **** with a hug Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:57   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:57     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:06     ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-11-30 21:50       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:11         ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-11-30 21:13   ` Al Viro
2018-11-30 21:28     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-12-01  1:52   ` Joshua Kinard
2018-12-01  4:58   ` Mike Galbraith
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] Documentation: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] drm/nouveau: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:13   ` Diego Viola
2018-11-30 21:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:03       ` Diego Viola
     [not found]         ` <CA+ToGPEaxYxuzB__SM77J_8596u8Q+wa4uqfDn+LbwmL_NsOhA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-04  7:57           ` Michel Hermier
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] m68k: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:44   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 20:59     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:59       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] parisc: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:48   ` Dennis Clarke
2018-11-30 23:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:05   ` Diego Viola
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] cpufreq: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-03  9:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] ide: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] media: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01  8:01   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mtd: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:39   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-11-30 20:56     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:56       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01 10:31   ` Richard Weinberger
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] net/sunhme: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] scsi: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:21   ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] inotify: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01  6:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-12-05  9:49     ` Jan Kara
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] irq: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] lib: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 19:41   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 19:46     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 19:49       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-30 20:59     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-02  3:24       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-02 21:34   ` Tobin C. Harding
2018-11-30 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] net: " Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-03 10:15   ` Phil Sutter
2018-11-30 19:40 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 Kees Cook
2018-11-30 19:40   ` Kees Cook
2018-11-30 19:40   ` Kees Cook
2018-11-30 19:40   ` Kees Cook
2018-11-30 19:48   ` Fwd: " Kees Cook
2018-11-30 20:42     ` Aaro Koskinen
2018-11-30 19:56   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-11-30 19:56     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-11-30 19:56     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-11-30 20:12     ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:12       ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:12       ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:34       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-30 20:34         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-30 20:34         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-30 20:35       ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:35         ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:35         ` David Miller
     [not found]         ` <20181130.123507.1940310466680455876.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-30 20:39           ` Abuse
2018-11-30 20:39             ` Abuse
2018-11-30 20:42             ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:42               ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:42               ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20181130.124228.979846577878820546.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-30 20:45                 ` Abuse
2018-11-30 20:45                   ` Abuse
2018-11-30 20:53                   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2018-11-30 20:43             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 20:43               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-01  4:08             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01  4:08               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:42         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:42           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:47           ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:47             ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:53             ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 21:53               ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 21:53               ` Jens Axboe
2018-11-30 20:34     ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:34       ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:34       ` David Miller
2018-11-30 20:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:01       ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:01         ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:01         ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:01         ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:44         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:44           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:44           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:44           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:48           ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:48             ` David Miller
2018-11-30 21:54             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:54               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:04               ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:04                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:04                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:04                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57           ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57             ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57             ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57             ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:57             ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:12             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:12               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:12               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:12               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:14               ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 22:14                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 22:14                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 22:14                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:26                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:26                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:26                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:29                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:29                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:29                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:29                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:30                   ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:30                     ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:30                     ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:30                     ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:40                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:40                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:40                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 22:40                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:28                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:28                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:28                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 23:28                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-01  8:20                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-12-01  8:20                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-12-07 13:39                   ` Eric Curtin
2018-12-07 13:39                     ` Eric Curtin
2018-12-07 13:39                     ` Eric Curtin
2018-11-30 22:26               ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 22:26                 ` James Bottomley
2018-11-30 21:02       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:04       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 21:04         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 21:04         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-30 19:57   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-30 21:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:09   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 20:09     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 20:09     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 20:09     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-11-30 21:32     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:32       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:32       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:31   ` Matthias Brugger
2018-11-30 20:31     ` Matthias Brugger
2018-11-30 20:31     ` Matthias Brugger
2018-11-30 20:31     ` Matthias Brugger
2018-11-30 21:34     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:34       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:34       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 20:42   ` Chris Mason
2018-11-30 20:42     ` Chris Mason
2018-11-30 20:42     ` Chris Mason
2018-11-30 21:36     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:07   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-30 21:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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