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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"Dock, Deneen T" <deneen.t.dock@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kristen@linux.intel.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"<netdev@vger.kernel.org>" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vmalloc: New flag for flush before releasing pages
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 19:31:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206193108.GA21002@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu8pQcb_5AoRS8yyvT0FxHTe=yUQYNoQX2z6mysyC9noZA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 08:23:20PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 20:21, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:04 AM Ard Biesheuvel
> > <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 19:54, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > > > That’s not totally nuts. Do we ever have code that expects __va() to
> > > > work on module data?  Perhaps crypto code trying to encrypt static
> > > > data because our APIs don’t understand virtual addresses.  I guess if
> > > > highmem is ever used for modules, then we should be fine.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The crypto code shouldn't care, but I think it will probably break hibernate :-(
> >
> > How so?  Hibernate works (or at least should work) on x86 PAE, where
> > __va doesn't work on module data, and, on x86, the direct map has some
> > RO parts with where the module is, so hibernate can't be writing to
> > the memory through the direct map with its final permissions.
> 
> On arm64 at least, hibernate reads the contents of memory via the
> linear mapping. Not sure about other arches.

Can we handle this like the DEBUG_PAGEALLOC case, and extract the pfn from
the pte when we see that it's PROT_NONE?

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	"Dock, Deneen T" <deneen.t.dock@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kristen@linux.intel.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vmalloc: New flag for flush before releasing pages
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 19:31:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206193108.GA21002@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu8pQcb_5AoRS8yyvT0FxHTe=yUQYNoQX2z6mysyC9noZA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 08:23:20PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 20:21, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:04 AM Ard Biesheuvel
> > <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 19:54, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > > > That’s not totally nuts. Do we ever have code that expects __va() to
> > > > work on module data?  Perhaps crypto code trying to encrypt static
> > > > data because our APIs don’t understand virtual addresses.  I guess if
> > > > highmem is ever used for modules, then we should be fine.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The crypto code shouldn't care, but I think it will probably break hibernate :-(
> >
> > How so?  Hibernate works (or at least should work) on x86 PAE, where
> > __va doesn't work on module data, and, on x86, the direct map has some
> > RO parts with where the module is, so hibernate can't be writing to
> > the memory through the direct map with its final permissions.
> 
> On arm64 at least, hibernate reads the contents of memory via the
> linear mapping. Not sure about other arches.

Can we handle this like the DEBUG_PAGEALLOC case, and extract the pfn from
the pte when we see that it's PROT_NONE?

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-06 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-28  0:07 [PATCH 0/2] Don’t leave executable TLB entries to freed pages Rick Edgecombe
2018-11-28  0:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] vmalloc: New flag for flush before releasing pages Rick Edgecombe
2018-12-04  0:04   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04  1:43   ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 16:03     ` Will Deacon
2018-12-04 20:02       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 20:02         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 20:02         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 20:02         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 20:09         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 20:09           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 23:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 23:52             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 23:52             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:57             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05  1:57               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05  1:57               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 11:41           ` Will Deacon
2018-12-05 11:41             ` Will Deacon
2018-12-05 23:16             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 23:16               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06  7:29               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06  7:29                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 11:10                 ` Will Deacon
2018-12-06 11:10                   ` Will Deacon
2018-12-06 18:53                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 18:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:01                   ` Tycho Andersen
2018-12-06 19:01                     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-12-06 19:19                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:19                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:39                       ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-06 19:39                         ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-06 20:17                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 20:17                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 23:08                           ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-06 23:08                             ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-07  3:06                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-07  3:06                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-07  3:06                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-06 20:19                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-06 20:19                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-06 20:19                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-06 20:26                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 20:26                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:04                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 19:04                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 19:20                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:20                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:23                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 19:23                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 19:31                         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-12-06 19:31                           ` Will Deacon
2018-12-06 19:36                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-06 19:36                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-12-04 20:36         ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 20:36           ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 20:36           ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 23:51           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-04 23:51             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  0:01             ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  0:01               ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  0:01               ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  0:29               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  0:29                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  0:29                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  0:53                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  0:53                   ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  0:53                   ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  1:45                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:45                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:45                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  2:09                     ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  2:09                       ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  2:09                       ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 18:56     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 18:56       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 19:44       ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 19:44         ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 19:48         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 19:48           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 22:48           ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 22:48             ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 23:27             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 23:27               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 23:34               ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-04 23:34                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  1:09             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:09               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:09               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-12-05  1:45               ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  1:45                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-05  1:45                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-28  0:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/modules: Make x86 allocs to flush when free Rick Edgecombe
2018-11-28 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-29  0:02     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29  0:02       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29  0:02       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29  1:40   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29  1:40     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29  6:14     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29  6:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29  6:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-28  1:06 ` [PATCH 0/2] Don’t leave executable TLB entries to freed pages Nadav Amit
2018-11-28  1:21   ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-28  9:57     ` Will Deacon
2018-11-28 18:29       ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-29 14:06 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-29 18:49   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29 18:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29 18:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2018-11-29 23:19     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-29 23:19       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-29 23:19       ` Masami Hiramatsu

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