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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Chintan Pandya <cpandya@codeaurora.org>,
	Jun Yao <yaojun8558363@gmail.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 04:24:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190220122418.GE12668@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7e4db43-b836-4ac2-1aea-922be585d8b1@arm.com>

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 03:57:59PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 02/20/2019 03:58 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:47:12AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 02/19/2019 11:02 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:51:01AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>> On 02/19/2019 04:43 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>>>> For pte page, use pgtable_page_ctor(); for pmd page, use
> >>>>> pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() if not folded; and for the rest (pud,
> >>>>> p4d and pgd), don't use any.
> >>>> pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() is not optional for any level page table page
> >>>> as it determines the struct page state and zone statistics.
> >>>
> >>> This is not true. pgtable_page_ctor() is only meant for user pte
> >>> page. The name isn't perfect (we named it this way before we had
> >>> split pmd page table lock, and never bothered to change it).
> >>>
> >>> The commit cccd843f54be ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> >>> clearly states so:
> >>>   Note that only pages currently accounted as NR_PAGETABLES are
> >>>   tracked as PageTable; this does not include pgd/p4d/pud/pmd pages.
> >>
> >> I think the commit is the following one and it does say so. But what is
> >> the rationale of tagging only PTE page as PageTable and updating the zone
> >> stat but not doing so for higher level page table pages ? Are not they
> >> used as page table pages ? Should not they count towards NR_PAGETABLE ?
> >>
> >> 1d40a5ea01d53251c ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> > 
> > Well, I was just trying to clarify how the ctor is meant to be used.
> > The rational behind it is probably another topic.
> > 
> > For starters, the number of pmd/pud/p4d/pgd is at least two orders
> > of magnitude less than the number of pte, which makes them almost
> > negligible. And some archs use kmem for them, so it's infeasible to
> > SetPageTable on or account them in the way the ctor does on those
> > archs.
> 
> I understand the kmem cases which are definitely problematic and should
> be fixed. IIRC there is a mechanism to custom init pages allocated for
> slab cache with a ctor function which in turn can call pgtable_page_ctor().
> But destructor helper support for slab has been dropped I guess.

You can't put a spinlock in the struct page if the page is allocated
through slab.  Slab uses basically all of struct page for its own
purposes.  I tried to make that clear with the new layout of struct
page where everything's in a union discriminated by what the page is
allocated for.


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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Jun Yao <yaojun8558363@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Chintan Pandya <cpandya@codeaurora.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 04:24:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190220122418.GE12668@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7e4db43-b836-4ac2-1aea-922be585d8b1@arm.com>

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 03:57:59PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 02/20/2019 03:58 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:47:12AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 02/19/2019 11:02 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:51:01AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>> On 02/19/2019 04:43 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >>>>> For pte page, use pgtable_page_ctor(); for pmd page, use
> >>>>> pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() if not folded; and for the rest (pud,
> >>>>> p4d and pgd), don't use any.
> >>>> pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() is not optional for any level page table page
> >>>> as it determines the struct page state and zone statistics.
> >>>
> >>> This is not true. pgtable_page_ctor() is only meant for user pte
> >>> page. The name isn't perfect (we named it this way before we had
> >>> split pmd page table lock, and never bothered to change it).
> >>>
> >>> The commit cccd843f54be ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> >>> clearly states so:
> >>>   Note that only pages currently accounted as NR_PAGETABLES are
> >>>   tracked as PageTable; this does not include pgd/p4d/pud/pmd pages.
> >>
> >> I think the commit is the following one and it does say so. But what is
> >> the rationale of tagging only PTE page as PageTable and updating the zone
> >> stat but not doing so for higher level page table pages ? Are not they
> >> used as page table pages ? Should not they count towards NR_PAGETABLE ?
> >>
> >> 1d40a5ea01d53251c ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> > 
> > Well, I was just trying to clarify how the ctor is meant to be used.
> > The rational behind it is probably another topic.
> > 
> > For starters, the number of pmd/pud/p4d/pgd is at least two orders
> > of magnitude less than the number of pte, which makes them almost
> > negligible. And some archs use kmem for them, so it's infeasible to
> > SetPageTable on or account them in the way the ctor does on those
> > archs.
> 
> I understand the kmem cases which are definitely problematic and should
> be fixed. IIRC there is a mechanism to custom init pages allocated for
> slab cache with a ctor function which in turn can call pgtable_page_ctor().
> But destructor helper support for slab has been dropped I guess.

You can't put a spinlock in the struct page if the page is allocated
through slab.  Slab uses basically all of struct page for its own
purposes.  I tried to make that clear with the new layout of struct
page where everything's in a union discriminated by what the page is
allocated for.


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-20 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-14 21:16 [PATCH] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-02-14 21:16 ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 15:12 ` Will Deacon
2019-02-18 15:12   ` Will Deacon
2019-02-18 19:49   ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 19:49     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 20:48     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 20:48       ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  4:09     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  4:09       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-18 23:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-26 15:13     ` Mark Rutland
2019-02-26 15:13       ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-09  3:52       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  3:52         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  4:21   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  4:21     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  5:32     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  5:32       ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  6:17       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  6:17         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19 22:28         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19 22:28           ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 10:27           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20 10:27             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20 12:24             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2019-02-20 12:24               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:22             ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 20:22               ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 20:59               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:59                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:59                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  3:20           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20  3:20             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20 21:03       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 21:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 21:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 15:12   ` Mark Rutland
2019-02-26 15:12     ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-09  4:01     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  4:01       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  4:01       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19   ` [PATCH v3 " Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11  8:28       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11  8:28         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:10         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:10           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 12:12       ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 12:12         ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 12:57         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 12:57           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:11         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:11           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:11           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11  7:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11  7:45       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:23       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:23         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] arm64: mm: call ctor for stage2 pmd page Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  2:19         ` [PATCH] KVM: ARM: Remove pgtable page standard functions from stage-2 page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12  2:19           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12  2:40           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  2:40             ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12 10:37           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 10:37             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 11:31             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 11:31               ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 11:43               ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 11:43                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 13:25                 ` [PATCH V2] " Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 13:25                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-04-01 16:16                   ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 16:16                     ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 16:16                     ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 18:34                     ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-01 18:34                       ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-01 18:34                       ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-02  9:03                       ` Will Deacon
2019-04-02  9:03                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-02  9:03                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 17:18                           ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08 17:18                             ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08 17:18                             ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08  9:09                     ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  3:08 ` [PATCH] " Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  3:08   ` Anshuman Khandual

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