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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Chintan Pandya <cpandya@codeaurora.org>,
	Jun Yao <yaojun8558363@gmail.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:57:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7e4db43-b836-4ac2-1aea-922be585d8b1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190219222828.GA68281@google.com>



On 02/20/2019 03:58 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:47:12AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>> + Matthew Wilcox
>>
>> On 02/19/2019 11:02 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:51:01AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/19/2019 04:43 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>> For pte page, use pgtable_page_ctor(); for pmd page, use
>>>>> pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() if not folded; and for the rest (pud,
>>>>> p4d and pgd), don't use any.
>>>> pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() is not optional for any level page table page
>>>> as it determines the struct page state and zone statistics.
>>>
>>> This is not true. pgtable_page_ctor() is only meant for user pte
>>> page. The name isn't perfect (we named it this way before we had
>>> split pmd page table lock, and never bothered to change it).
>>>
>>> The commit cccd843f54be ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
>>> clearly states so:
>>>   Note that only pages currently accounted as NR_PAGETABLES are
>>>   tracked as PageTable; this does not include pgd/p4d/pud/pmd pages.
>>
>> I think the commit is the following one and it does say so. But what is
>> the rationale of tagging only PTE page as PageTable and updating the zone
>> stat but not doing so for higher level page table pages ? Are not they
>> used as page table pages ? Should not they count towards NR_PAGETABLE ?
>>
>> 1d40a5ea01d53251c ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> 
> Well, I was just trying to clarify how the ctor is meant to be used.
> The rational behind it is probably another topic.
> 
> For starters, the number of pmd/pud/p4d/pgd is at least two orders
> of magnitude less than the number of pte, which makes them almost
> negligible. And some archs use kmem for them, so it's infeasible to
> SetPageTable on or account them in the way the ctor does on those
> archs.
> 

I understand the kmem cases which are definitely problematic and should
be fixed. IIRC there is a mechanism to custom init pages allocated for
slab cache with a ctor function which in turn can call pgtable_page_ctor().
But destructor helper support for slab has been dropped I guess.


> But, as I said, it's not something can't be changed. It's just not
> the concern of this patch.

Using pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() during PMD level pgtable page allocation
as suggested in the patch breaks pmd_alloc_one() changes as per the
previous proposal. Hence we all would need some agreement here.

https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg701960.html

We can still accommodate the split PMD ptlock feature in pmd_alloc_one().
A possible solution can be like this above and over the previous series.

diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
index a4168d366127..c02abb2a69f7 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ config ARM64
        select ACPI_SPCR_TABLE if ACPI
        select ACPI_PPTT if ACPI
        select ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_DATA
+       select ARCH_ENABLE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCK if HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
        select ARCH_HAS_DEBUG_VIRTUAL
        select ARCH_HAS_DEVMEM_IS_ALLOWED
        select ARCH_HAS_DMA_COHERENT_TO_PFN
diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
index a02a4d1d967d..258e09fb3ce2 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
+++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
@@ -37,13 +37,29 @@ static inline void pte_free(struct mm_struct *mm, pgtable_t pte);
 
 static inline pmd_t *pmd_alloc_one(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr)
 {
-       return (pmd_t *)pte_alloc_one_virt(mm);
+       pgtable_t ptr;
+
+       ptr = pte_alloc_one(mm);
+       if (!ptr)
+               return 0;
+
+#if defined(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) && USE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCKS
+       ptr->pmd_huge_pte = NULL;
+#endif
+       return (pmd_t *)page_to_virt(ptr);
 }
 
 static inline void pmd_free(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmdp)
 {
+       struct page *page;
+
        BUG_ON((unsigned long)pmdp & (PAGE_SIZE-1));
-       pte_free(mm, virt_to_page(pmdp));
+       page = virt_to_page(pmdp);
+
+#if defined(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) && USE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCKS
+       VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(page->pmd_huge_pte, page);
+#endif
+       pte_free(mm, page);
 }


> 
>>>
>>> I'm sure if we go back further, we can find similar stories: we
>>> don't set PageTable on page tables other than pte; and we don't
>>> account page tables other than pte. I don't have any objection if
>>> you want change these two. But please make sure they are consistent
>>> across all archs.
>>
>> pgtable_page_ctor/dtor() use across arch is not consistent and there is a need
>> for generalization which has been already acknowledged earlier. But for now we
>> can atleast fix this on arm64.
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1547619692-7946-1-git-send-email-anshuman.khandual@arm.com/
> 
> This is again not true. Please stop making claims not backed up by
> facts. And the link is completely irrelevant to the ctor.
> 
> I just checked *all* arches. Only four arches call the ctor outside
> pte_alloc_one(). They are arm, arm64, ppc and s390. The last two do
> so not because they want to SetPageTable on or account pmd/pud/p4d/
> pgd, but because they have to work around something, as arm/arm64
> do.

That reaffirms the fact that pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() are getting used
not in a consistent manner.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>> We should not skip it for any page table page.
>>>
>>> In fact, calling it on pmd/pud/p4d is peculiar, and may even be
>>> considered wrong. AFAIK, no other arch does so.
>>
>> Why would it be considered wrong ? IIUC archs have their own understanding
>> of this and there are different implementations. But doing something for
>> PTE page and skipping for others is plain inconsistent.
> 
> Allocating memory that will never be used is wrong. Please look into
> the ctor and find out what exactly it does under different configs.

Are you referring to ptlock_init() --> ptlock_alloc() triggered spinlock_t
allocations with USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS and ALLOC_SPLIT_PTLOCKS.

> 
> And why I said "may"? Because we know there is only negligible number
> of pmd/pud/p4d, so the memory allocated may be considered negligible
> as well.

Okay.

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From: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Jun Yao <yaojun8558363@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Chintan Pandya <cpandya@codeaurora.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 15:57:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7e4db43-b836-4ac2-1aea-922be585d8b1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190219222828.GA68281@google.com>



On 02/20/2019 03:58 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:47:12AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>> + Matthew Wilcox
>>
>> On 02/19/2019 11:02 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:51:01AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/19/2019 04:43 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>> For pte page, use pgtable_page_ctor(); for pmd page, use
>>>>> pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() if not folded; and for the rest (pud,
>>>>> p4d and pgd), don't use any.
>>>> pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() is not optional for any level page table page
>>>> as it determines the struct page state and zone statistics.
>>>
>>> This is not true. pgtable_page_ctor() is only meant for user pte
>>> page. The name isn't perfect (we named it this way before we had
>>> split pmd page table lock, and never bothered to change it).
>>>
>>> The commit cccd843f54be ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
>>> clearly states so:
>>>   Note that only pages currently accounted as NR_PAGETABLES are
>>>   tracked as PageTable; this does not include pgd/p4d/pud/pmd pages.
>>
>> I think the commit is the following one and it does say so. But what is
>> the rationale of tagging only PTE page as PageTable and updating the zone
>> stat but not doing so for higher level page table pages ? Are not they
>> used as page table pages ? Should not they count towards NR_PAGETABLE ?
>>
>> 1d40a5ea01d53251c ("mm: mark pages in use for page tables")
> 
> Well, I was just trying to clarify how the ctor is meant to be used.
> The rational behind it is probably another topic.
> 
> For starters, the number of pmd/pud/p4d/pgd is at least two orders
> of magnitude less than the number of pte, which makes them almost
> negligible. And some archs use kmem for them, so it's infeasible to
> SetPageTable on or account them in the way the ctor does on those
> archs.
> 

I understand the kmem cases which are definitely problematic and should
be fixed. IIRC there is a mechanism to custom init pages allocated for
slab cache with a ctor function which in turn can call pgtable_page_ctor().
But destructor helper support for slab has been dropped I guess.


> But, as I said, it's not something can't be changed. It's just not
> the concern of this patch.

Using pgtable_pmd_page_ctor() during PMD level pgtable page allocation
as suggested in the patch breaks pmd_alloc_one() changes as per the
previous proposal. Hence we all would need some agreement here.

https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg701960.html

We can still accommodate the split PMD ptlock feature in pmd_alloc_one().
A possible solution can be like this above and over the previous series.

diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
index a4168d366127..c02abb2a69f7 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ config ARM64
        select ACPI_SPCR_TABLE if ACPI
        select ACPI_PPTT if ACPI
        select ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_DATA
+       select ARCH_ENABLE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCK if HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
        select ARCH_HAS_DEBUG_VIRTUAL
        select ARCH_HAS_DEVMEM_IS_ALLOWED
        select ARCH_HAS_DMA_COHERENT_TO_PFN
diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
index a02a4d1d967d..258e09fb3ce2 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
+++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/pgalloc.h
@@ -37,13 +37,29 @@ static inline void pte_free(struct mm_struct *mm, pgtable_t pte);
 
 static inline pmd_t *pmd_alloc_one(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr)
 {
-       return (pmd_t *)pte_alloc_one_virt(mm);
+       pgtable_t ptr;
+
+       ptr = pte_alloc_one(mm);
+       if (!ptr)
+               return 0;
+
+#if defined(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) && USE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCKS
+       ptr->pmd_huge_pte = NULL;
+#endif
+       return (pmd_t *)page_to_virt(ptr);
 }
 
 static inline void pmd_free(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmdp)
 {
+       struct page *page;
+
        BUG_ON((unsigned long)pmdp & (PAGE_SIZE-1));
-       pte_free(mm, virt_to_page(pmdp));
+       page = virt_to_page(pmdp);
+
+#if defined(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) && USE_SPLIT_PMD_PTLOCKS
+       VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(page->pmd_huge_pte, page);
+#endif
+       pte_free(mm, page);
 }


> 
>>>
>>> I'm sure if we go back further, we can find similar stories: we
>>> don't set PageTable on page tables other than pte; and we don't
>>> account page tables other than pte. I don't have any objection if
>>> you want change these two. But please make sure they are consistent
>>> across all archs.
>>
>> pgtable_page_ctor/dtor() use across arch is not consistent and there is a need
>> for generalization which has been already acknowledged earlier. But for now we
>> can atleast fix this on arm64.
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1547619692-7946-1-git-send-email-anshuman.khandual@arm.com/
> 
> This is again not true. Please stop making claims not backed up by
> facts. And the link is completely irrelevant to the ctor.
> 
> I just checked *all* arches. Only four arches call the ctor outside
> pte_alloc_one(). They are arm, arm64, ppc and s390. The last two do
> so not because they want to SetPageTable on or account pmd/pud/p4d/
> pgd, but because they have to work around something, as arm/arm64
> do.

That reaffirms the fact that pgtable_page_ctor()/dtor() are getting used
not in a consistent manner.

> 
>>
>>>
>>>> We should not skip it for any page table page.
>>>
>>> In fact, calling it on pmd/pud/p4d is peculiar, and may even be
>>> considered wrong. AFAIK, no other arch does so.
>>
>> Why would it be considered wrong ? IIUC archs have their own understanding
>> of this and there are different implementations. But doing something for
>> PTE page and skipping for others is plain inconsistent.
> 
> Allocating memory that will never be used is wrong. Please look into
> the ctor and find out what exactly it does under different configs.

Are you referring to ptlock_init() --> ptlock_alloc() triggered spinlock_t
allocations with USE_SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS and ALLOC_SPLIT_PTLOCKS.

> 
> And why I said "may"? Because we know there is only negligible number
> of pmd/pud/p4d, so the memory allocated may be considered negligible
> as well.

Okay.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-20 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-14 21:16 [PATCH] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-02-14 21:16 ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 15:12 ` Will Deacon
2019-02-18 15:12   ` Will Deacon
2019-02-18 19:49   ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 19:49     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 20:48     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 20:48       ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  4:09     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  4:09       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-18 23:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-26 15:13     ` Mark Rutland
2019-02-26 15:13       ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-09  3:52       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  3:52         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-02-18 23:13     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  4:21   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  4:21     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  5:32     ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  5:32       ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  6:17       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  6:17         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19 22:28         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19 22:28           ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 10:27           ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2019-02-20 10:27             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20 12:24             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 12:24               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:22             ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 20:22               ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-20 20:59               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:59                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 20:59                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  1:34           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20  3:20           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20  3:20             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-20 21:03       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 21:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-20 21:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 15:12   ` Mark Rutland
2019-02-26 15:12     ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-09  4:01     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  4:01       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-09  4:01       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19   ` [PATCH v3 " Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-10  1:19       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11  8:28       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11  8:28         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:10         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:10           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 12:12       ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 12:12         ` Mark Rutland
2019-03-11 12:57         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 12:57           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:11         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:11           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:11           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11  7:45     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] arm64: mm: use appropriate ctors for page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11  7:45       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-11 23:23       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-11 23:23         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57     ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] arm64: mm: don't call page table ctors for init_mm Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] arm64: mm: call ctor for stage2 pmd page Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  2:19         ` [PATCH] KVM: ARM: Remove pgtable page standard functions from stage-2 page tables Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12  2:19           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12  2:40           ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  2:40             ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12 10:37           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 10:37             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 11:31             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 11:31               ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 11:43               ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 11:43                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2019-03-12 13:25                 ` [PATCH V2] " Anshuman Khandual
2019-03-12 13:25                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-04-01 16:16                   ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 16:16                     ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 16:16                     ` Will Deacon
2019-04-01 18:34                     ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-01 18:34                       ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-01 18:34                       ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-02  9:03                       ` Will Deacon
2019-04-02  9:03                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-02  9:03                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                         ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 14:22                           ` Will Deacon
2019-04-08 17:18                           ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08 17:18                             ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08 17:18                             ` Yu Zhao
2019-04-08  9:09                     ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-04-08  9:09                       ` Marc Zyngier
2019-03-12  0:57       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] arm64: mm: enable per pmd page table lock Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-03-12  0:57         ` Yu Zhao
2019-02-19  3:08 ` [PATCH] " Anshuman Khandual
2019-02-19  3:08   ` Anshuman Khandual

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