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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
Cc: stefan.wahren@i2se.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	meghana.madhyastha@gmail.com, kernel@martin.sperl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] spi: Split spi message into max_dma_len size chunks
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:47:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190412094721.GE6909@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98571639-840a-494c-9e41-29ff89a22a8e@tronnes.org>


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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:02:26PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
> Den 11.04.2019 20.18, skrev Lukas Wunner:
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 06:42:33PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
> >> @@ -1299,6 +1299,11 @@ static void __spi_pump_messages(struct spi_controller *ctlr, bool in_kthread)

> >>  	trace_spi_message_start(ctlr->cur_msg);

> >> +	ret = spi_split_transfers_maxsize(ctlr, ctlr->cur_msg, ctlr->max_dma_len,
> >> +					  GFP_KERNEL | GFP_DMA);

> > Um, shouldn't this be ifdef'ed to CONFIG_HAS_DMA?

> Maybe, I don't know. Mark didn't mentioned it when he commented on a
> previous version of this. Some hate ifdef's and want to avoid them, some
> don't.

I *think* we managed to fix all the architectures to at least stub out
the DMA interfaces, it's such a pointless thing to have conditional -
it really only makes a difference for build coverage.

> >> Some drivers like spi_bcm2835 have a max size on DMA transfers. Work
> >> around this by splitting up the transfer if necessary.

> > This feels like a very expensive solution to the problem:  Large transfers
> > are split into multiple smaller transfers (requiring lots of overhead to
> > allocate and populate the structures) and the split transfers seem to be
> > cached for later reuse.

> Only drivers that set ->max_dma_len will be split, and only when the
> length is bigger. I can't see any caching with a quick glance, where do
> you see it?

It *is* more expensive to post-process the transfers and have to do
allocations rather than having them set up as we want them on the way
in.

> > Even the normal case when no transfers exceed the limit is affected by
> > additional overhead, namely an iteration over the transfer list to
> > check each transfers' length. :-(

We already have the iterations in the message validation, if the code is
integrated there the overhead will be reduced.

> > Note that spi_map_buf() already splits every transfer's sglist into
> > segments that are smaller than ctlr->max_dma_len.  Now all that needs
> > to be done is to amend spi-bcm2835.c to iterate over the sglist
> > and transmit it in portions which do not exceed 65535.  Addressing the
> > problem at this lower level would drastically reduce the overhead
> > compared to the approach in the present patch and hence appears to be
> > more recommendable.

> In a previous version of this I suggested to Meghana to put this in the
> driver, but Mark wanted it in the core.

If we want to do this at a lower level the DMA code could hide this
limitation from the upper layers; presumably the SPI driver isn't the
only thing that might run into this.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-12  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-11 16:42 [PATCH v4 0/4] Chunk splitting of spi transfers Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-11 16:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] spi: Remove warning in spi_split_transfers_maxsize() Noralf Trønnes
     [not found] ` <20190411164235.49771-1-noralf-L59+Z2yzLopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-11 16:42   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] spi: Split spi message into max_dma_len size chunks Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-11 18:18     ` Lukas Wunner
2019-04-11 21:02       ` Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-12  9:47         ` Mark Brown [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20190412094721.GE6909-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-12 10:03             ` kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
2019-04-12 10:22               ` Mark Brown
2019-04-12 10:54           ` Lukas Wunner
2019-04-12 11:09             ` Mark Brown
2019-04-12 11:16               ` Lukas Wunner
2019-04-12 11:28                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20190412111615.25iogtr6qwc5zbx7-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-12 11:34                   ` kernel-TqfNSX0MhmxHKSADF0wUEw
2019-04-12 10:46         ` Lukas Wunner
2019-04-12 11:46           ` Mark Brown
2019-04-11 20:39     ` Noralf Trønnes
     [not found]     ` <20190411164235.49771-3-noralf-L59+Z2yzLopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-12  9:08       ` Mark Brown
2019-04-11 16:42 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] spi/spi-bcm2835: Remove DMA transfer size cap Noralf Trønnes
2019-04-11 16:42 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] drm/tinydrm: Remove chunk splitting in tinydrm_spi_transfer Noralf Trønnes

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