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From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:ARM/QUALCOMM SUPPORT" <linux-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: sdm845: Add CPU topology
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 08:49:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190606074921.43mbinemk3j565yu@queper01-ThinkPad-T460s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCR360osDz3oW+XhHT1R12SacAuJ44W_NfFOPWxJFjOPg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincent,

On Thursday 06 Jun 2019 at 09:05:16 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 19:21, Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 17 May 2019 at 14:55:19 (-0700), Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > Quoting Amit Kucheria (2019-05-16 04:54:45)
> > > > (cc'ing Andy's correct email address)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:46 AM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting Amit Kucheria (2019-05-13 04:54:12)
> > > > > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:31 PM Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 12:13 AM Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The 8 CPU cores of the SDM845 are organized in two clusters of 4 big
> > > > > > > > ("gold") and 4 little ("silver") cores. Add a cpu-map node to the DT
> > > > > > > > that describes this topology.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is partly true. There are two groups of gold and silver cores,
> > > > > > > but AFAICT they are in a single cluster, not two separate ones. SDM845
> > > > > > > is one of the early examples of ARM's Dynamiq architecture.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I noticed that this patch sneaked through for this merge window but
> > > > > > > perhaps we can whip up a quick fix for -rc2?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And please find attached a patch to fix this up. Andy, since this
> > > > > > hasn't landed yet (can we still squash this into the original patch?),
> > > > > > I couldn't add a Fixes tag.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I had the same concern. Thanks for catching this. I suspect this must
> > > > > cause some problem for IPA given that it can't discern between the big
> > > > > and little "power clusters"?
> > > >
> > > > Both EAS and IPA, I believe. It influences the scheduler's view of the
> > > > the topology.
> > >
> > > And EAS and IPA are OK with the real topology? I'm just curious if
> > > changing the topology to reflect reality will be a problem for those
> > > two.
> >
> > FWIW, neither EAS nor IPA depends on this. Not the upstream version of
> > EAS at least (which is used in recent Android kernels -- 4.19+).
> >
> > But doing this is still required for other things in the scheduler (the
> > so-called 'capacity-awareness' code). So until we have a better
> > solution, this patch is doing the right thing.
> 
> I'm not sure to catch what you mean ?
> Which so-called 'capacity-awareness' code are you speaking about ? and
> what is the problem ?

I'm talking about the wake-up path. ATM select_idle_sibling() is totally
unaware of capacity differences. In its current form, this function
basically assumes that all CPUs in a given sd_llc have the same
capacity, which would be wrong if we had a single MC level for SDM845.
So, until select_idle_sibling() is 'fixed' to be capacity-aware, we need
two levels of sd for asymetric systems (including DynamIQ) so the
wake_cap() story actually works.

I hope that clarifies it :)

Thanks,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-06  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-14 18:42 [PATCH] arm64: dts: sdm845: Add CPU topology Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-01-18  2:50 ` Doug Anderson
2019-05-13 11:01 ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-13 11:01   ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-13 11:54   ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-13 11:54     ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-14 21:16     ` Stephen Boyd
2019-05-14 21:16       ` Stephen Boyd
2019-05-16 11:54       ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-16 11:54         ` Amit Kucheria
2019-05-17 21:55         ` Stephen Boyd
2019-05-17 21:55           ` Stephen Boyd
2019-06-05 17:20           ` Quentin Perret
2019-06-05 17:20             ` Quentin Perret
2019-06-06  7:05             ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06  7:05               ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06  7:49               ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2019-06-06  7:49                 ` Quentin Perret
2019-06-06  8:20                 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06  8:20                   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06  8:29                   ` Quentin Perret
2019-06-06  8:29                     ` Quentin Perret
2019-06-06  8:34                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-06-06  8:34                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-06-06  8:44                     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06  8:44                       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-06-06 10:50                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2019-06-06 10:50                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2019-05-22  4:03         ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-05-22  4:03           ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-05-16 13:22     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-05-16 13:22       ` Sudeep Holla

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