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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Eugene Syromiatnikov <esyr@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Vedvyas Shanbhogue <vedvyas.shanbhogue@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 22/27] binfmt_elf: Extract .note.gnu.property from an ELF file
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:57:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190610165730.GM28398@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94b9c55b3b874825fda485af40ab2a6bc3dad171.camel@intel.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 09:29:04AM -0700, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:01 +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 01:06:41PM -0700, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > > An ELF file's .note.gnu.property indicates features the executable file
> > > can support.  For example, the property GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_AND
> > > indicates the file supports GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_IBT and/or
> > > GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_SHSTK.
> > > 
> > > With this patch, if an arch needs to setup features from ELF properties,
> > > it needs CONFIG_ARCH_USE_GNU_PROPERTY to be set, and a specific
> > > arch_setup_property().
> > > 
> > > For example, for X86_64:
> > > 
> > > int arch_setup_property(void *ehdr, void *phdr, struct file *f, bool inter)
> > > {
> > > 	int r;
> > > 	uint32_t property;
> > > 
> > > 	r = get_gnu_property(ehdr, phdr, f, GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_AND,
> > > 			     &property);
> > > 	...
> > > }
> > 
> > Although this code works for the simple case, I have some concerns about
> > some aspects of the implementation here.  There appear to be some bounds
> > checking / buffer overrun issues, and the code seems quite complex.
> > 
> > Maybe this patch tries too hard to be compatible with toolchains that do
> > silly things such as embedding huge notes in an executable, or mixing
> > NT_GNU_PROPERTY_TYPE_0 in a single PT_NOTE with a load of junk not
> > relevant to the loader.  I wonder whether Linux can dictate what
> > interpretation(s) of the ELF specs it is prepared to support, rather than
> > trying to support absolutely anything.
> 
> To me, looking at PT_GNU_PROPERTY and not trying to support anything is a
> logical choice.  And it breaks only a limited set of toolchains.
> 
> I will simplify the parser and leave this patch as-is for anyone who wants to
> back-port.  Are there any objections or concerns?

No objection from me ;)  But I'm biased.

Hopefully this change should allow substantial simplification.  For one
thing, PT_GNU_PROPERTY tells its file offset and size directly in its
phdrs entry.  That should save us a lot of effort on the kernel side.

Cheers
---Dave

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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Eugene Syromiatnikov <esyr@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 22/27] binfmt_elf: Extract .note.gnu.property from an ELF file
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:57:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190610165730.GM28398@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94b9c55b3b874825fda485af40ab2a6bc3dad171.camel@intel.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 09:29:04AM -0700, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:01 +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 01:06:41PM -0700, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > > An ELF file's .note.gnu.property indicates features the executable file
> > > can support.  For example, the property GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_AND
> > > indicates the file supports GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_IBT and/or
> > > GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_SHSTK.
> > > 
> > > With this patch, if an arch needs to setup features from ELF properties,
> > > it needs CONFIG_ARCH_USE_GNU_PROPERTY to be set, and a specific
> > > arch_setup_property().
> > > 
> > > For example, for X86_64:
> > > 
> > > int arch_setup_property(void *ehdr, void *phdr, struct file *f, bool inter)
> > > {
> > > 	int r;
> > > 	uint32_t property;
> > > 
> > > 	r = get_gnu_property(ehdr, phdr, f, GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_AND,
> > > 			     &property);
> > > 	...
> > > }
> > 
> > Although this code works for the simple case, I have some concerns about
> > some aspects of the implementation here.  There appear to be some bounds
> > checking / buffer overrun issues, and the code seems quite complex.
> > 
> > Maybe this patch tries too hard to be compatible with toolchains that do
> > silly things such as embedding huge notes in an executable, or mixing
> > NT_GNU_PROPERTY_TYPE_0 in a single PT_NOTE with a load of junk not
> > relevant to the loader.  I wonder whether Linux can dictate what
> > interpretation(s) of the ELF specs it is prepared to support, rather than
> > trying to support absolutely anything.
> 
> To me, looking at PT_GNU_PROPERTY and not trying to support anything is a
> logical choice.  And it breaks only a limited set of toolchains.
> 
> I will simplify the parser and leave this patch as-is for anyone who wants to
> back-port.  Are there any objections or concerns?

No objection from me ;)  But I'm biased.

Hopefully this change should allow substantial simplification.  For one
thing, PT_GNU_PROPERTY tells its file offset and size directly in its
phdrs entry.  That should save us a lot of effort on the kernel side.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-10 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06 20:06 [PATCH v7 00/27] Control-flow Enforcement: Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 01/27] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 02/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add CET CPU feature flags for Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 03/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Change names to separate XSAVES system and user states Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 04/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce XSAVES system states Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 21:18   ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-06 21:18     ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-06 22:04     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 22:04       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 22:08       ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-06 22:08         ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-06 22:10         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 22:10           ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 22:10           ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  1:54         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-07  1:54           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 05/27] x86/fpu/xstate: Add XSAVES system states for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  7:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07 16:14     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:14       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:14       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 06/27] x86/cet: Add control protection exception handler Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 07/27] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for user-mode shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 08/27] mm: Introduce VM_SHSTK for shadow stack memory Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 09/27] mm/mmap: Prevent Shadow Stack VMA merges Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 10/27] x86/mm: Change _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_HW Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 11/27] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 12/27] drm/i915/gvt: Update _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_DIRTY_BITS Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 13/27] x86/mm: Modify ptep_set_wrprotect and pmdp_set_wrprotect for _PAGE_DIRTY_SW Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 14/27] x86/mm: Shadow stack page fault error checking Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 15/27] mm: Handle shadow stack page fault Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  7:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 16/27] mm: Handle THP/HugeTLB " Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 17/27] mm: Update can_follow_write_pte/pmd for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 18/27] mm: Introduce do_mmap_locked() Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  7:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07 16:16       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:16         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:16         ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 19/27] x86/cet/shstk: User-mode shadow stack support Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 20/27] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce WRUSS instruction Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 21/27] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 22/27] binfmt_elf: Extract .note.gnu.property from an ELF file Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  7:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07 16:17     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:17       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 16:17       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07 18:01   ` Dave Martin
2019-06-07 18:01     ` Dave Martin
2019-06-10 16:29     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-10 16:29       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-10 16:29       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-10 16:57       ` Dave Martin [this message]
2019-06-10 16:57         ` Dave Martin
2019-06-10 17:24       ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-10 17:24         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-10 17:24         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-11 11:41         ` Dave Martin
2019-06-11 11:41           ` Dave Martin
2019-06-11 19:31           ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-11 19:31             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-11 19:31             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-12  9:32             ` Dave Martin
2019-06-12  9:32               ` Dave Martin
2019-06-12 19:04               ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-12 19:04                 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-12 19:04                 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-13 13:26                 ` Dave Martin
2019-06-13 13:26                   ` Dave Martin
2019-06-17 11:08               ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-17 11:08                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-17 11:08                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-17 12:20                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-17 12:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-17 12:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18  9:12                   ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18  9:12                     ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 12:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 12:41                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 12:47                       ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 12:47                         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 12:47                         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 12:55                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 12:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 13:32                           ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 13:32                             ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 13:32                             ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 13:32                             ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 14:58                             ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 14:58                               ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 14:58                               ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 15:49                               ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 15:49                                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 15:49                                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 15:53                                 ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 15:53                                   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 15:53                                   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 16:05                                   ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:05                                     ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:05                                     ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:00                                     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 16:00                                       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 16:00                                       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-18 16:20                                       ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 16:20                                         ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 16:25                                         ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:25                                           ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:25                                           ` Florian Weimer
2019-06-18 16:50                                           ` Dave Martin
2019-06-18 16:50                                             ` Dave Martin
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 23/27] x86/cet/shstk: ELF header parsing of Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-07  7:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-07  7:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 24/27] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 25/27] mm/mmap: Add Shadow stack pages to memory accounting Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-11 17:55   ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-11 17:55     ` Dave Hansen
2019-06-11 19:22     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-11 19:22       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-11 19:22       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 26/27] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for Shadow Stack Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06 ` [PATCH v7 27/27] x86/cet/shstk: Add Shadow Stack instructions to opcode map Yu-cheng Yu
2019-06-06 20:06   ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-11-01 14:03   ` Adrian Hunter
2019-11-01 14:03     ` Adrian Hunter
2019-11-01 14:17     ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-11-01 14:17       ` Yu-cheng Yu
2019-11-01 14:17       ` Yu-cheng Yu

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