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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	"Grimm, Jon" <jon.grimm@amd.com>,
	baekhw@google.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] dma-mapping: preallocate unencrypted DMA atomic pool
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 15:31:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109143108.GA22656@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2001071152020.183706@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 11:57:24AM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> I'll rely on Thomas to chime in if this doesn't make sense for the SEV 
> usecase.
> 
> I think the sizing of the single atomic pool needs to be determined.  Our 
> peak usage that we have measured from NVMe is ~1.4MB and atomic_pool is 
> currently sized to 256KB by default.  I'm unsure at this time if we need 
> to be able to dynamically expand this pool with a kworker.
>
> Maybe when CONFIG_AMD_MEM_ENCRYPT is enabled this atomic pool should be 
> sized to 2MB or so and then when it reaches half capacity we schedule some 
> background work to dynamically increase it?  That wouldn't be hard unless 
> the pool can be rapidly depleted.
> 

Note that a non-coherent architecture with the same workload would need
the same size.

> Do we want to increase the atomic pool size by default and then do 
> background dynamic expansion?

For now I'd just scale with system memory size.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: "Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	"Grimm, Jon" <jon.grimm@amd.com>,
	baekhw@google.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [rfc] dma-mapping: preallocate unencrypted DMA atomic pool
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 15:31:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109143108.GA22656@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2001071152020.183706@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 11:57:24AM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> I'll rely on Thomas to chime in if this doesn't make sense for the SEV 
> usecase.
> 
> I think the sizing of the single atomic pool needs to be determined.  Our 
> peak usage that we have measured from NVMe is ~1.4MB and atomic_pool is 
> currently sized to 256KB by default.  I'm unsure at this time if we need 
> to be able to dynamically expand this pool with a kworker.
>
> Maybe when CONFIG_AMD_MEM_ENCRYPT is enabled this atomic pool should be 
> sized to 2MB or so and then when it reaches half capacity we schedule some 
> background work to dynamically increase it?  That wouldn't be hard unless 
> the pool can be rapidly depleted.
> 

Note that a non-coherent architecture with the same workload would need
the same size.

> Do we want to increase the atomic pool size by default and then do 
> background dynamic expansion?

For now I'd just scale with system memory size.
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-01  1:54 [rfc] dma-mapping: preallocate unencrypted DMA atomic pool David Rientjes
2020-01-01  1:54 ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-01-06 17:34 ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-06 17:34   ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-07 10:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-07 10:54     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-07 19:57     ` David Rientjes
2020-01-07 19:57       ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-01-09 14:31       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-01-09 14:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-09 18:58         ` David Rientjes
2020-01-09 18:58           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-01-17 15:28 ` Tom Lendacky
2020-01-17 15:28   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-02-28  9:27   ` David Rientjes
2020-02-28  9:27     ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-02  0:05     ` [rfc 0/6] unencrypted atomic DMA pools with dynamic expansion David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05       ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 1/6] dma-mapping: pass device to atomic allocation functions David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 2/6] dma-remap: add additional atomic pools to map to gfp mask David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-05 15:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-05 15:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 3/6] dma-remap: wire up the atomic pools depending on " David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-05 15:43         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-05 15:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 4/6] dma-remap: dynamically expanding atomic pools David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-03 22:29         ` David Rientjes
2020-03-03 22:29           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 5/6] dma-direct: atomic allocations must come from unencrypted pools David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-05 15:44         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-05 15:44           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-07  0:36           ` David Rientjes
2020-03-07  0:36             ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-10 18:47             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-10 18:47               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-02  0:05       ` [rfc 6/6] dma-remap: double the default DMA coherent pool size David Rientjes
2020-03-02  0:05         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-03-05 15:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-05 15:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-08 21:21       ` [rfc v2 0/6] unencrypted atomic DMA pools with dynamic expansion David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21         ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 1/6] dma-remap: separate DMA atomic pools from direct remap code David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-14  6:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14  6:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 2/6] dma-pool: add additional coherent pools to map to gfp mask David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 3/6] dma-pool: dynamically expanding atomic pools David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 4/6] dma-direct: atomic allocations must come from atomic coherent pools David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-09 21:24           ` Tom Lendacky
2020-04-09 21:24             ` Tom Lendacky
2020-04-14 19:18             ` David Rientjes
2020-04-14 19:18               ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-14  6:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14  6:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 19:20             ` David Rientjes
2020-04-14 19:20               ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 5/6] x86/mm: unencrypted non-blocking DMA allocations use " David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-08 21:21         ` [rfc v2 6/6] dma-pool: scale the default DMA coherent pool size with memory capacity David Rientjes
2020-04-08 21:21           ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-10 14:55         ` [rfc v2 3/6] dma-pool: dynamically expanding atomic pools Hillf Danton
2020-04-10 19:37           ` David Rientjes
2020-04-10 19:37             ` David Rientjes via iommu
2020-04-14  6:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14  6:44               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 19:23               ` David Rientjes
2020-04-14 19:23                 ` David Rientjes via iommu

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