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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Devicetree List <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" 
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for a second regulator for the GPU
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109162814.GB3702@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09ddfac3-da8d-c039-92a0-d0f51dc3fea5@arm.com>

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On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:14:42PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> On 08/01/2020 22:52, Nicolas Boichat wrote:

> > That'd be a bit awkward to match, though... Currently all bifrost
> > share the same compatible "arm,mali-bifrost", and it'd seem
> > weird/wrong to match "mediatek,mt8183-mali" in this driver? I have no
> > idea if any other Mali implementation will require a second regulator,
> > but with the MT8183 we do need it, see below.

This doesn't sound particularly hard, just new.  Plenty of other devices
have quirks done based on the SoC they're in or the IP revision, this
would just be another of those quirks.

> > Well if devfreq was working (see patch 7
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322851/ for a partial
> > implementation), it would adjust both mali and sram regulators, see
> > the OPP table in patch 2
> > (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322825/): SRAM voltage needs to
> > be increased for frequencies >=698Mhz.

> > Now if you have some better idea how to implement this, I'm all ears!

Set a flag based on the compatible, then base runtime decisions off
that.

> I'm not sure if it's better, but could we just encode the list of
> regulators into device tree. I'm a bit worried about special casing an
> "sram" regulator given that other platforms might have a similar
> situation but call the second regulator a different name.

Obviously the list of regulators bound on a given platform is encoded in
the device tree but you shouldn't really be relying on that to figure
out what to request in the driver - the driver should know what it's
expecting.  Bear in mind that getting regulator stuff wrong can result
in physical damage to the system so it pays to be careful and to
consider that platform integrators have a tendency to rely on things
that just happen to work but aren't a good idea or accurate
representations of the system.  It's certainly *possible* to do
something like that, the information is there, but I would not in any
way recommend doing things that way as it's likely to not be robust.

The possibility that the regulator setup may vary on other platforms
(which I'd expect TBH) does suggest that just requesting a bunch of
supply names optionally and hoping that we got all the ones that are
important on a given platform is going to lead to trouble down the line.

Steve, please fix your mail client to word wrap within paragraphs at
something substantially less than 80 columns.  Doing this makes your
messages much easier to read and reply to.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Devicetree List <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for a second regulator for the GPU
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109162814.GB3702@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09ddfac3-da8d-c039-92a0-d0f51dc3fea5@arm.com>


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On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:14:42PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> On 08/01/2020 22:52, Nicolas Boichat wrote:

> > That'd be a bit awkward to match, though... Currently all bifrost
> > share the same compatible "arm,mali-bifrost", and it'd seem
> > weird/wrong to match "mediatek,mt8183-mali" in this driver? I have no
> > idea if any other Mali implementation will require a second regulator,
> > but with the MT8183 we do need it, see below.

This doesn't sound particularly hard, just new.  Plenty of other devices
have quirks done based on the SoC they're in or the IP revision, this
would just be another of those quirks.

> > Well if devfreq was working (see patch 7
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322851/ for a partial
> > implementation), it would adjust both mali and sram regulators, see
> > the OPP table in patch 2
> > (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322825/): SRAM voltage needs to
> > be increased for frequencies >=698Mhz.

> > Now if you have some better idea how to implement this, I'm all ears!

Set a flag based on the compatible, then base runtime decisions off
that.

> I'm not sure if it's better, but could we just encode the list of
> regulators into device tree. I'm a bit worried about special casing an
> "sram" regulator given that other platforms might have a similar
> situation but call the second regulator a different name.

Obviously the list of regulators bound on a given platform is encoded in
the device tree but you shouldn't really be relying on that to figure
out what to request in the driver - the driver should know what it's
expecting.  Bear in mind that getting regulator stuff wrong can result
in physical damage to the system so it pays to be careful and to
consider that platform integrators have a tendency to rely on things
that just happen to work but aren't a good idea or accurate
representations of the system.  It's certainly *possible* to do
something like that, the information is there, but I would not in any
way recommend doing things that way as it's likely to not be robust.

The possibility that the regulator setup may vary on other platforms
(which I'd expect TBH) does suggest that just requesting a bunch of
supply names optionally and hoping that we got all the ones that are
important on a given platform is going to lead to trouble down the line.

Steve, please fix your mail client to word wrap within paragraphs at
something substantially less than 80 columns.  Doing this makes your
messages much easier to read and reply to.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Devicetree List <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for a second regulator for the GPU
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109162814.GB3702@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09ddfac3-da8d-c039-92a0-d0f51dc3fea5@arm.com>


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On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:14:42PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> On 08/01/2020 22:52, Nicolas Boichat wrote:

> > That'd be a bit awkward to match, though... Currently all bifrost
> > share the same compatible "arm,mali-bifrost", and it'd seem
> > weird/wrong to match "mediatek,mt8183-mali" in this driver? I have no
> > idea if any other Mali implementation will require a second regulator,
> > but with the MT8183 we do need it, see below.

This doesn't sound particularly hard, just new.  Plenty of other devices
have quirks done based on the SoC they're in or the IP revision, this
would just be another of those quirks.

> > Well if devfreq was working (see patch 7
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322851/ for a partial
> > implementation), it would adjust both mali and sram regulators, see
> > the OPP table in patch 2
> > (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322825/): SRAM voltage needs to
> > be increased for frequencies >=698Mhz.

> > Now if you have some better idea how to implement this, I'm all ears!

Set a flag based on the compatible, then base runtime decisions off
that.

> I'm not sure if it's better, but could we just encode the list of
> regulators into device tree. I'm a bit worried about special casing an
> "sram" regulator given that other platforms might have a similar
> situation but call the second regulator a different name.

Obviously the list of regulators bound on a given platform is encoded in
the device tree but you shouldn't really be relying on that to figure
out what to request in the driver - the driver should know what it's
expecting.  Bear in mind that getting regulator stuff wrong can result
in physical damage to the system so it pays to be careful and to
consider that platform integrators have a tendency to rely on things
that just happen to work but aren't a good idea or accurate
representations of the system.  It's certainly *possible* to do
something like that, the information is there, but I would not in any
way recommend doing things that way as it's likely to not be robust.

The possibility that the regulator setup may vary on other platforms
(which I'd expect TBH) does suggest that just requesting a bunch of
supply names optionally and hoping that we got all the ones that are
important on a given platform is going to lead to trouble down the line.

Steve, please fix your mail client to word wrap within paragraphs at
something substantially less than 80 columns.  Doing this makes your
messages much easier to read and reply to.

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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Devicetree List <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Alyssa Rosenzweig <alyssa.rosenzweig@collabora.com>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for a second regulator for the GPU
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 16:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200109162814.GB3702@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09ddfac3-da8d-c039-92a0-d0f51dc3fea5@arm.com>


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On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:14:42PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> On 08/01/2020 22:52, Nicolas Boichat wrote:

> > That'd be a bit awkward to match, though... Currently all bifrost
> > share the same compatible "arm,mali-bifrost", and it'd seem
> > weird/wrong to match "mediatek,mt8183-mali" in this driver? I have no
> > idea if any other Mali implementation will require a second regulator,
> > but with the MT8183 we do need it, see below.

This doesn't sound particularly hard, just new.  Plenty of other devices
have quirks done based on the SoC they're in or the IP revision, this
would just be another of those quirks.

> > Well if devfreq was working (see patch 7
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322851/ for a partial
> > implementation), it would adjust both mali and sram regulators, see
> > the OPP table in patch 2
> > (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11322825/): SRAM voltage needs to
> > be increased for frequencies >=698Mhz.

> > Now if you have some better idea how to implement this, I'm all ears!

Set a flag based on the compatible, then base runtime decisions off
that.

> I'm not sure if it's better, but could we just encode the list of
> regulators into device tree. I'm a bit worried about special casing an
> "sram" regulator given that other platforms might have a similar
> situation but call the second regulator a different name.

Obviously the list of regulators bound on a given platform is encoded in
the device tree but you shouldn't really be relying on that to figure
out what to request in the driver - the driver should know what it's
expecting.  Bear in mind that getting regulator stuff wrong can result
in physical damage to the system so it pays to be careful and to
consider that platform integrators have a tendency to rely on things
that just happen to work but aren't a good idea or accurate
representations of the system.  It's certainly *possible* to do
something like that, the information is there, but I would not in any
way recommend doing things that way as it's likely to not be robust.

The possibility that the regulator setup may vary on other platforms
(which I'd expect TBH) does suggest that just requesting a bunch of
supply names optionally and hoping that we got all the ones that are
important on a given platform is going to lead to trouble down the line.

Steve, please fix your mail client to word wrap within paragraphs at
something substantially less than 80 columns.  Doing this makes your
messages much easier to read and reply to.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-09 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-08  5:23 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add dts for mt8183 GPU (and misc panfrost patches) Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: gpu: mali-bifrost: Add Mediatek MT8183 Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] arm64: dts: mt8183: Add node for the Mali GPU Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] drm/panfrost: Improve error reporting in panfrost_gpu_power_on Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 12:03   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:03     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:03     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:03     ` Steven Price
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for a second regulator for the GPU Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 13:23   ` Mark Brown
2020-01-08 13:23     ` Mark Brown
2020-01-08 13:23     ` Mark Brown
2020-01-08 13:23     ` Mark Brown
2020-01-08 22:52     ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:52       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:52       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:52       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 14:14       ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:14         ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:14         ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:14         ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 16:28         ` Mark Brown [this message]
2020-01-09 16:28           ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 16:28           ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 16:28           ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 16:53           ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 16:53             ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 16:53             ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 16:53             ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 19:49             ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 19:49               ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 19:49               ` Mark Brown
2020-01-09 19:49               ` Mark Brown
2020-01-10 11:30               ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:30                 ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:30                 ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:30                 ` Steven Price
2020-01-14  7:21                 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-14  7:21                   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-14  7:21                   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-14  7:21                   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 16:56       ` Rob Herring
2020-01-09 16:56         ` Rob Herring
2020-01-09 16:56         ` Rob Herring
2020-01-09 16:56         ` Rob Herring
2020-01-10 11:39         ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:39           ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:39           ` Steven Price
2020-01-10 11:39           ` Steven Price
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] drm/panfrost: Add support for multiple power domain support Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 14:08   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:08     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:08     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:08     ` Steven Price
2020-01-10  1:53     ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-10  1:53       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-10  1:53       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-10  1:53       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-27  7:55       ` Ulf Hansson
2020-01-27  7:55         ` Ulf Hansson
2020-01-27  7:55         ` Ulf Hansson
2020-01-27  7:55         ` Ulf Hansson
2020-02-07  2:04         ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04           ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04           ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04           ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04           ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04             ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04             ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-02-07  2:04             ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 6/7, RFC] drm/panfrost: Add bifrost compatible string Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 14:11   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:11     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:11     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 14:11     ` Steven Price
2020-01-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/7, RFC]: drm/panfrost: devfreq: Add support for 2 regulators Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08  5:23   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 20:09   ` Rob Herring
2020-01-08 20:09     ` Rob Herring
2020-01-08 20:09     ` Rob Herring
2020-01-08 20:09     ` Rob Herring
2020-01-08 22:44     ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:44       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:44       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 22:44       ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-08 12:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Add dts for mt8183 GPU (and misc panfrost patches) Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-01-08 12:56   ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-01-08 12:56   ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-01-08 12:56   ` Alyssa Rosenzweig
2020-01-09  9:08 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09  9:08   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09  9:08   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09  9:08   ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-01-09 12:01 ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:01   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:01   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 12:01   ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 13:10   ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-09 13:10     ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-09 13:10     ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-09 13:10     ` Robin Murphy
2020-01-09 13:29     ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 13:29       ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 13:29       ` Steven Price
2020-01-09 13:29       ` Steven Price

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