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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Matias Bjørling" <mb@lightnvm.io>
Cc: "Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@lst.de, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@kernel.dk,
	"Javier González" <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
	"SelvaKumar S" <selvakuma.s1@samsung.com>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"Nitesh Shetty" <nj.shetty@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] block: add support for zone offline transition
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:07:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200626090709.GA26616@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3429226-16ae-df3c-38aa-50e3a8716e71@lightnvm.io>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 04:12:21PM +0200, Matias Bjørling wrote:
> I am not sure this makes sense to expose through the kernel zone api. One 
> of the goals of the kernel zone API is to be a layer that provides an 
> unified zone model across SMR HDDs and ZNS SSDs. The offline zone 
> operation, as defined in the ZNS specification, does not have an equivalent 
> in SMR HDDs (ZAC/ZBC).
>
> This is different from the Zone Capacity change, where the zone capacity 
> simply was zone size for SMR HDDs. Making it easy to support. That is not 
> the same for ZAC/ZBC, that does not offer the offline operation to 
> transition zones in read only state to offline state.

Bullshit.  It is eactly the same case of careful additions to the model,
which totally make sense.

The only major issue with the patch is that we need a flag to indicate
if a given device supports offlining zones before wiring it up.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: "Matias Bjørling" <mb@lightnvm.io>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, "Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	"SelvaKumar S" <selvakuma.s1@samsung.com>,
	sagi@grimberg.me, "Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Nitesh Shetty" <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, kbusch@kernel.org,
	"Javier González" <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] block: add support for zone offline transition
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:07:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200626090709.GA26616@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3429226-16ae-df3c-38aa-50e3a8716e71@lightnvm.io>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 04:12:21PM +0200, Matias Bjørling wrote:
> I am not sure this makes sense to expose through the kernel zone api. One 
> of the goals of the kernel zone API is to be a layer that provides an 
> unified zone model across SMR HDDs and ZNS SSDs. The offline zone 
> operation, as defined in the ZNS specification, does not have an equivalent 
> in SMR HDDs (ZAC/ZBC).
>
> This is different from the Zone Capacity change, where the zone capacity 
> simply was zone size for SMR HDDs. Making it easy to support. That is not 
> the same for ZAC/ZBC, that does not offer the offline operation to 
> transition zones in read only state to offline state.

Bullshit.  It is eactly the same case of careful additions to the model,
which totally make sense.

The only major issue with the patch is that we need a flag to indicate
if a given device supports offlining zones before wiring it up.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-26  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-25 12:21 [PATCH 0/6] ZNS: Extra features for current patches Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 1/6] block: introduce IOCTL for zone mgmt Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-26  1:17   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:17     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:01     ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:01       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:37       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:37         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:51         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:51           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:03           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:03             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:08             ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:08               ` Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] block: add support for selecting all zones Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-26  1:27   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:27     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  5:58     ` Javier González
2020-06-26  5:58       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:35       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:35         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:52         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:52           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:06           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:06             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] block: add support for zone offline transition Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-25 14:12   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 14:12     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:48     ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:48       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  1:14       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:14         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:18         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:18           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  9:11         ` hch
2020-06-26  9:11           ` hch
2020-06-26  9:15           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  9:15             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  9:17             ` hch
2020-06-26  9:17               ` hch
2020-06-26 10:02               ` Javier González
2020-06-26 10:02                 ` Javier González
2020-06-26  9:07     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-06-26  9:07       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  1:34   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:34     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:08     ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:08       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:42       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:42         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:58         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:58           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:17           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:17             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:26             ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:26               ` Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 4/6] block: introduce IOCTL to report dev properties Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-25 13:10   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 13:10     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:42     ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:42       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:58       ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:58         ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-26  6:24         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:24           ` Javier González
2020-06-25 20:25       ` Keith Busch
2020-06-25 20:25         ` Keith Busch
2020-06-26  6:28         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:28           ` Javier González
2020-06-26 15:52           ` Keith Busch
2020-06-26 15:52             ` Keith Busch
2020-06-26 16:25             ` Javier González
2020-06-26 16:25               ` Javier González
2020-06-26  0:57       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  0:57         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:27         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:27           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  1:38   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:38     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:22     ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:22       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 5/6] block: add zone attr. to zone mgmt IOCTL struct Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-25 15:13   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 15:13     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:51     ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:51       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  1:45   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  1:45     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:03     ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:03       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:38       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:38         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:49         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:49           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  9:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  9:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26 10:01     ` Javier González
2020-06-26 10:01       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21 ` [PATCH 6/6] nvme: Add consistency check for zone count Javier González
2020-06-25 12:21   ` Javier González
2020-06-25 13:16   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 13:16     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:45     ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:45       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 21:49   ` Keith Busch
2020-06-25 21:49     ` Keith Busch
2020-06-26  0:04     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  0:04       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:13       ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:13         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:49         ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:49           ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  6:55           ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:55             ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:09             ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:09               ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:29               ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:29                 ` Javier González
2020-06-26  7:42                 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  7:42                   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-26  9:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26  9:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-26 10:03     ` Javier González
2020-06-26 10:03       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 13:04 ` [PATCH 0/6] ZNS: Extra features for current patches Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 13:04   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 14:48   ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 14:48     ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:39     ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:39       ` Javier González
2020-06-25 19:53       ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-25 19:53         ` Matias Bjørling
2020-06-26  6:26         ` Javier González
2020-06-26  6:26           ` Javier González

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