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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
Cc: "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Andrew Murray" <amurray@thegoodpenguin.co.uk>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <marek.behun@nic.cz>,
	"Remi Pommarel" <repk@triplefau.lt>,
	"Tomasz Maciej Nowak" <tmn505@gmail.com>,
	Xogium <contact@xogium.me>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] PCI: aardvark: Don't touch PCIe registers if no card connected
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:21:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715162108.GB3432@e121166-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200715121726.eh4xglkdbcqkh7td@pali>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 02:17:26PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 13 July 2020 12:23:25 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:27:47AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Friday 10 July 2020 10:18:00 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 05:09:59PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > I understand that but the bridge bus resource can be trimmed to just
> > > > > > contain the root bus because that's the only one where there is a
> > > > > > chance you can enumerate a device.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is possible to register only root bridge without endpoint?
> > > > 
> > > > It is possible to register the root bridge with a trimmed IORESOURCE_BUS
> > > > so that you don't enumerate anything other than the root port.
> > > 
> > > Hello Lorenzo! I really do not know how to achieve it. From code it
> > > looks like that pci/probe.c scans child buses unconditionally.
> > > 
> > > pci-aardvark.c calls pci_host_probe() which calls functions
> > > pci_scan_root_bus_bridge() which calls pci_scan_child_bus() which calls
> > > pci_scan_child_bus_extend() which calls pci_scan_bridge_extend() (bridge
> > > needs to be reconfigured) which then try to probe child bus via
> > > pci_scan_child_bus_extend() because bridge is not card bus.
> > > 
> > > In function pci_scan_bridge_extend() I do not see a way how to skip
> > > probing for child buses which would avoid enumerating aardvark root
> > > bridge when PCIe device is not connected.
> > > 
> > > dmesg output contains:
> > > 
> > >   advk-pcie d0070000.pcie: link never came up
> > >   advk-pcie d0070000.pcie: PCI host bridge to bus 0000:00
> > >   pci_bus 0000:00: root bus resource [bus 00-ff]
> > 
> > This resource can be limited to the root bus number only before calling
> > pci_host_probe() (ie see pci_parse_request_of_pci_ranges() and code in
> > pci_scan_bridge_extend() that programs primary/secondary/subordinate
> > busses) but I think that only papers over the issue, it does not fix it.
> 
> I looked at the code in pci/probe.c again and I do not think it is
> possible to avoid scanning devices. pci_scan_child_bus_extend() is
> unconditionally calling pci_scan_slot() for devfn=0 as the first thing.
> And this function unconditionally calls pci_scan_device() which is
> directly trying to read vendor id from config register.
> 
> So for me it looks like that kernel expects that can read vendor id and
> device id from config register for device which is not connected.

Not if it is connected to a bus that the root port does not decode,
that's what I am saying.

> And trying to read config register would cause those timeouts in
> aardvark.

The root port (which effectively works as PCI bridge from this
standpoint) does not issue config cycles for busses that aren't within
its decoded bus range, which in turn is determined by the firmware
IORESOURCE_BUS resource.

This issue is caused by devices that are connected downstream to
the root port.

Anyway - patch merged but I would be happy to keep this discussion
going, somehow.

If the LPC20 VFIO/IOMMU/PCI microconference is approved it can be a
good venue for this to happen.

Lorenzo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
Cc: "Tomasz Maciej Nowak" <tmn505@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Xogium <contact@xogium.me>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Marek Behún" <marek.behun@nic.cz>,
	"Remi Pommarel" <repk@triplefau.lt>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Andrew Murray" <amurray@thegoodpenguin.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] PCI: aardvark: Don't touch PCIe registers if no card connected
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:21:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715162108.GB3432@e121166-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200715121726.eh4xglkdbcqkh7td@pali>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 02:17:26PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Monday 13 July 2020 12:23:25 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:27:47AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Friday 10 July 2020 10:18:00 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 05:09:59PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > I understand that but the bridge bus resource can be trimmed to just
> > > > > > contain the root bus because that's the only one where there is a
> > > > > > chance you can enumerate a device.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is possible to register only root bridge without endpoint?
> > > > 
> > > > It is possible to register the root bridge with a trimmed IORESOURCE_BUS
> > > > so that you don't enumerate anything other than the root port.
> > > 
> > > Hello Lorenzo! I really do not know how to achieve it. From code it
> > > looks like that pci/probe.c scans child buses unconditionally.
> > > 
> > > pci-aardvark.c calls pci_host_probe() which calls functions
> > > pci_scan_root_bus_bridge() which calls pci_scan_child_bus() which calls
> > > pci_scan_child_bus_extend() which calls pci_scan_bridge_extend() (bridge
> > > needs to be reconfigured) which then try to probe child bus via
> > > pci_scan_child_bus_extend() because bridge is not card bus.
> > > 
> > > In function pci_scan_bridge_extend() I do not see a way how to skip
> > > probing for child buses which would avoid enumerating aardvark root
> > > bridge when PCIe device is not connected.
> > > 
> > > dmesg output contains:
> > > 
> > >   advk-pcie d0070000.pcie: link never came up
> > >   advk-pcie d0070000.pcie: PCI host bridge to bus 0000:00
> > >   pci_bus 0000:00: root bus resource [bus 00-ff]
> > 
> > This resource can be limited to the root bus number only before calling
> > pci_host_probe() (ie see pci_parse_request_of_pci_ranges() and code in
> > pci_scan_bridge_extend() that programs primary/secondary/subordinate
> > busses) but I think that only papers over the issue, it does not fix it.
> 
> I looked at the code in pci/probe.c again and I do not think it is
> possible to avoid scanning devices. pci_scan_child_bus_extend() is
> unconditionally calling pci_scan_slot() for devfn=0 as the first thing.
> And this function unconditionally calls pci_scan_device() which is
> directly trying to read vendor id from config register.
> 
> So for me it looks like that kernel expects that can read vendor id and
> device id from config register for device which is not connected.

Not if it is connected to a bus that the root port does not decode,
that's what I am saying.

> And trying to read config register would cause those timeouts in
> aardvark.

The root port (which effectively works as PCI bridge from this
standpoint) does not issue config cycles for busses that aren't within
its decoded bus range, which in turn is determined by the firmware
IORESOURCE_BUS resource.

This issue is caused by devices that are connected downstream to
the root port.

Anyway - patch merged but I would be happy to keep this discussion
going, somehow.

If the LPC20 VFIO/IOMMU/PCI microconference is approved it can be a
good venue for this to happen.

Lorenzo

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-15 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-28 14:31 [PATCH] " Pali Rohár
2020-05-28 14:31 ` Pali Rohár
2020-05-28 16:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-28 16:26   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-28 16:38   ` Pali Rohár
2020-05-28 16:38     ` Pali Rohár
2020-05-28 16:49     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-28 16:49       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-29  8:30       ` Pali Rohár
2020-05-29  8:30         ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-30 12:31         ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-30 12:31           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-30 13:51     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-30 13:51       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-30 14:04       ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-30 14:04         ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-30 14:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-06-30 14:58           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-01  8:08           ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-01  8:08             ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-01  8:20 ` [PATCH v2] " Pali Rohár
2020-07-01  8:20   ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-01 21:34   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-01 21:34     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-02  8:23     ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-02  8:23       ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-02  8:30 ` [PATCH v3] " Pali Rohár
2020-07-02  8:30   ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-09 11:35   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-09 11:35     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-09 12:22     ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-09 12:22       ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-09 14:47       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-09 14:47         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-09 15:09         ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-09 15:09           ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-10  9:18           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-10  9:18             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-10 15:44             ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-10 15:44               ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-10 16:08               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-10 16:08                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-10 19:30                 ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-10 19:30                   ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-10 20:08                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-10 20:08                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-07-13  8:27             ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-13  8:27               ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-13 11:23               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-13 11:23                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-13 14:50                 ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-13 14:50                   ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-13 16:41                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-13 16:41                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-14  7:38                     ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-14  7:38                       ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-15 12:17                 ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-15 12:17                   ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-15 16:21                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2020-07-15 16:21                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-21  8:57                     ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-21  8:57                       ` Pali Rohár
2020-07-21 10:48                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-07-21 10:48                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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